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1 posted on 10/02/2011 6:25:03 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

And so it begins.


2 posted on 10/02/2011 6:26:16 AM PDT by dearolddad
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To: ilovesarah2012

too many use the emergency room for the doctor’s office


3 posted on 10/02/2011 6:26:27 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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Waste of money to pay postage to mail a bill. They aren’t going to pay anyway. This is just going to hasten the bankrupcy of more hospitals.

And why should ANY non-emergency visits be covered?


4 posted on 10/02/2011 6:30:35 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: ilovesarah2012
Additional visits will not be covered, and patients may be billed for that care.

Dubious.

First, medical facilities cannot/will not deny service, emergency or otherwise. The resulting lawsuits would bankrupt them.

Second, patients may be billed, but being Medicaid-eligible indicates their resources are limited. Thus, the patients could refuse to pay. So, who makes up the difference? Taxpayers via subsidies to pay for the uncollected amounts.

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This is one of those 'looks good on paper' proposals that, ultimately, will not solve anything.
5 posted on 10/02/2011 6:30:40 AM PDT by TomGuy
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Bill all you want, they won’t pay it. If they are illegal, or on welfare, or unemployed, there’s not much that can be done.


10 posted on 10/02/2011 6:33:49 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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Isn’t it interesting that a northern, liberal, supposedly more “enlightened” state would attempt this!?


13 posted on 10/02/2011 6:38:31 AM PDT by mtrott
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Many Medicaid recipients use the ER for their family doctor because Medicaid pays for the ER but not office visits. Down in my part of Texas, one hospital put up a sign: “If your illness is not deemed an Emergency, you must pay a $50 charge before being seen by a physician.” That cleaned out the Emergency Room.


16 posted on 10/02/2011 6:41:35 AM PDT by no dems (No matter who it might be, when I find out a person is a Democrat, I lose respect for them.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

A couple years ago there was a story around here about people that were on medicaid using the emergency room hundreds of times.

For stuff like a stubbed toe.

None of these people paid anything for their visit.


19 posted on 10/02/2011 6:42:49 AM PDT by dforest
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Uh...tell me one more time how 'obamacare' makes medical care better....

threedocs
21 posted on 10/02/2011 6:43:46 AM PDT by FrankR (What you resist...PERSISTS!)
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I don’t object to this, this is medicaid. Some have no choice but there are plenty of others on medicaid that have gamed the system and shouldn’t be on it anyway.


24 posted on 10/02/2011 6:44:30 AM PDT by shield ((Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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Took my mother in law to a hospital emergency room in Allentown,Pa. last Feb. I sat there from 5:00 PM til midnight & saw a constant parade of whole families that did not speak english go in for treatment of colds.(alleged colds) You hear about this stuff but it is a shock when you see it. There were no questions asked they just let them in. We pay for this crap. It needs to be changed as we all know.


26 posted on 10/02/2011 6:45:56 AM PDT by certrtwngnut
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Liberals will shelve this by asserting discrimination against ILLEGALS.


32 posted on 10/02/2011 6:50:45 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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A person on Medicaid will take an ambulance to the ER for a sprained ankle rather than cough up $10 for a cab ride. Medicaid needs reasonable co-payments attached to it to avoid this crap.
35 posted on 10/02/2011 6:52:12 AM PDT by Shqipo (I am AttackWatch parolee #1,237. I am breaking my parole once more.)
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“”State officials have notified clients that they will get coverage for only three of those visits each year starting Saturday. Additional visits will not be covered, and patients may be billed for that care.””


The only reasons I can imagine a person would need to visit the emergency room more than three times per year is:

1. Overdosing on illegal drugs.
2. Bullet or knife wounds from illegal actions.

It seems Washington needs to toss some Medicaid patients into the slammer.


37 posted on 10/02/2011 6:54:07 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: ilovesarah2012

Why even three a year?


53 posted on 10/02/2011 7:17:57 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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bump


58 posted on 10/02/2011 7:25:47 AM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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This is better but not great. What needs to be done is cash up front for non=emergency visits. You will collect little by billing. In the State I live in you can not bill. You just do not get paid period. One step forward but not by much. I would estimate 80% at least of ER visits are not appropriate. When a patient shows up in the ER and sees a physician who knows nothing about them alot of tests are run just to keep the lawyers at arms length. I saw a patient of mine who had about 4,000 of testing done for abdominal pain that ended up being constipation. I can guarantee you if they had been seen by me in the office the bill would have been less than 100.00.


60 posted on 10/02/2011 7:28:23 AM PDT by therut
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but illegals without even MediCaid will still get free ER care, right?


82 posted on 10/02/2011 7:56:32 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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I havr no problem with cutting Welfare Medicaid coverage.

The problem is that it is a federal crime and malpractice liability to refuse these parasites.


85 posted on 10/02/2011 8:08:21 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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