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Kabul: Streets with no names
BBC Persian ^ | September 29th 2011 | Tahir Qadiry

Posted on 09/30/2011 2:15:55 PM PDT by Cardhu

There are few formal street names or house numbers in Kabul - so just how does a postman deliver the mail?

For the postmen of Kabul, navigating the maze of the city is a daunting task. It is a city of more than four million people and one in which hundreds of homes and streets are being developed every year.

There are few street names and house numbers, and the Central Post Office has yet to introduce a full postal code system.

There is often little information to work with So how does a letter find its way to the correct recipient?

At one of Kabul's Post Office distribution centres, I saw more than 30 private and official letters. None had an exact address - just a series of vague directions.

One, which had been sent from America, simply states, "Hamid Jaan, behind Darul-Aman palace".

Another directs the postman to a destination "behind Omar Jan Mosque", while the addressee of another apparently lives close to "Alauddin school".

"The receiver's address is always vague. They write the address as though I am a friend of the receiver," says Ahmad Omid, who has been working with Afghan Post for more than two years.

"Sometimes, it takes hours to deliver a letter."

Ahmad, who crosses the city by bike, says that finding addresses is based on personal knowledge and asking locals for help.

I accompanied Ahmad on his mission to deliver Hamid Jaan's letter from America.

We headed towards Darul-Aman, south of Kabul, a palace that was built 90 years ago during the reign of Amanullah Khan, the former Afghan king. It had been badly damaged during the civil war in the 1970s.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; kabul; nonames; noonecanread; noonecanwrite; nostreetnames; postoffice
"People in Afghanistan are predominantly known locally by their profession, and the Hamid we wanted turned out to be a butcher."
1 posted on 09/30/2011 2:16:06 PM PDT by Cardhu
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To: Cardhu

Simple.

Mohammaed Avenue #1, Mohammed Ave #2, Mohammed Blvd Northeast
Mohaamed Place SW. Mophammed Place NE.


2 posted on 09/30/2011 2:21:50 PM PDT by Surrounded_too
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To: Cardhu

Costa Rica is that way. You can’t give an address to a taxi driver, you need to give directions like “1/2 mile north of the McDonald’s in neighborhood x”.


3 posted on 09/30/2011 2:22:47 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Cardhu

How is a muzzie to send his letter-bombs?


4 posted on 09/30/2011 2:27:30 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Minutemen
How is a muzzie to send his letter-bombs?

Hand-delivery.

5 posted on 09/30/2011 2:29:38 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: Surrounded_too; Cementjungle; Minutemen

When people are illiterate there is no need for a post office to deliver to the general population.

No maps, no street addresses but now they can use e-mail and bypass the age of the Pony Express.


6 posted on 09/30/2011 2:33:38 PM PDT by Cardhu
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To: Cardhu

I was driving in Vancouver B.C. about 20 years ago and I noticed that a lot of streets did not have a street sign on the corner. It drove em crazy!


7 posted on 09/30/2011 2:36:54 PM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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To: Cardhu

I was driving in Vancouver B.C. about 20 years ago and I noticed that a lot of streets did not have a street sign on the corner. It drove me crazy!


8 posted on 09/30/2011 2:37:30 PM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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To: Cardhu

When my family lived in Laos our address was the Pink House, Savannakhet, Laos. But our mail from the U.S. was sent to an APO address.


9 posted on 09/30/2011 2:42:58 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Cardhu

Carmel- by-the-Sea, CA - streets are named but no house numbers. Everyone has post office box.


10 posted on 09/30/2011 3:08:33 PM PDT by HotKat
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To: Cardhu

“Sometimes, it takes hours to deliver a letter.”

Bet it cuts down on the junk mail and circulars though!


11 posted on 09/30/2011 4:08:05 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

When we lived in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, we gave directions to friends we’d invited over for dinner: coming from the embassy on Palestine Road, proceed south until you come to the decomposing goat. We’re right across the road.


12 posted on 09/30/2011 5:14:40 PM PDT by Ax
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Cardhu.
It is a city of more than four million people and one in which hundreds of homes and streets are being developed every year.

13 posted on 10/01/2011 6:47:39 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

wiki image dated January 2006.

Kabul City's narrow streets that were built up more than three decades ago have fallen victim to the enormous traffic. With no traffic lights or signs, accidents and traffic jams constantly plague the population...

14 posted on 10/01/2011 2:51:57 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

In all fairness, that’s one of the busier ends of Kabul (south central Kabul, by the police compound) around the northern side of the sprawling bazaars.

As you get up towards Pashtunistan square and the various ministry buildings heading back into central Kabul, the roads get pretty good.

Traffic, and local drivers manners, on the other hand....


15 posted on 10/02/2011 6:33:18 PM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade)
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To: Ax; Boogieman
coming from the embassy on Palestine Road, proceed south until you come to the decomposing goat. We’re right across the road.

LOL!

16 posted on 10/02/2011 6:41:29 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: USF
Hi! So nice to hear from you...

I am reading Travels in Arabia Deserta by C.M. Doughty, first published in 1888, and it's quite clear that a nomadic desert culture had no use of street numbers or names. The people of whom he wrote, had no concept of any previous existing culture, they believed allah created the ruins and the evidence of irrigation/agriculture...and if allah didn't require them to have an address (they pulled up their tents and moved on) why would they, following the word of allah (sarc) think they need an address NOW? It's not in the koran.

Living in the seventh century has its drawbacks. Paul Theroux the travel writer came across the same problems during his trip through Africa. In Egypt, looking for an author he wanted to meet, he was surprised how difficult it was to find him, as the man had no address. In Cairo!

17 posted on 10/02/2011 6:52:19 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks
Good to see you too...

*sigh* I recall many a time when I had to give directions like "after gas station X, head north for a mile until you past the school/mosque with a white wall, then take the left fork in the road, and carry on for a couple of blocks until you see the big green house on the left with chevrons on the gates. Then take the very next right, and look for the large tan house with the 3 rocks placed on the compound wall, or green light outside, or the one with the blue chalk mark... if you see the shack with the tin roof, you've gone too far.

...they believed allah created the ruins and the evidence of irrigation/agriculture...

LOL... I believe it was allah's will that their neighborhoods got filled with craters too!

As for "innovations" and "innovators" (those guilty of "bidah") of things which are not in the koran or hadeeth, a humorous observation that some locals had about the salafi-types intimidation, demanding an end to harram western style influence, schools, institutions etc, on the grounds that they did not have or practice that during mohammads time - is the obvious fact that there were no AKs, Makarovs or car bombs in mohammads time either!

18 posted on 10/02/2011 7:29:18 PM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade)
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To: USF
I'm thinking it's not bidah to adapt western technology to reach a halal (permissable) conclusion...as long as the end result is that the infidel dies!

Ask the Imam...is it ok to fly an airplane into a building?

Yes my son...inshalla!

19 posted on 10/02/2011 8:27:48 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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