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Colleges To Smokers: 'You're Not Welcome'
CNN/theindychannel.com ^ | August 31, 2011 | Stephanie Steinberg

Posted on 08/31/2011 5:52:29 AM PDT by Abathar

(CNN) -- This summer, a group of University of Kentucky students and staff has been patrolling campus grounds -- scouting out any student, employee or visitor lighting a cigarette.

Unlike hall monitors who cite students for bad behavior, the Tobacco-free Take Action! volunteers approach smokers, respectfully ask them to dispose of the cigarette and provide information about quit-smoking resources available on campus.

The University of Kentucky is one of more than 500 college campuses across the country that have enacted 100% smoke-free or tobacco-free policies as of July 1. Although policy enforcement varies from school to school, most prohibit smoking on all campus grounds, including athletic stadiums, restaurants and parking lots.

An increasing number of colleges adopted smoke-free or tobacco-free policies in the past few years, according to American Nonsmokers' Rights Foundation Project Manager Liz Williams. In the past year alone, 120 campuses were added to the smoke-free list.

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"The number of nicotine replacement coupons redeemed by students and faculty also increased from 124 to 470 in the same period.

For smokers visiting the campus, UK offers nicotine cessation products, such as gum or patches, for $5 at several locations."

I bet those coupons were redeemed right around finals week too, I knew kids who would chew the gum just to get the buzz.

1 posted on 08/31/2011 5:52:30 AM PDT by Abathar
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To: Abathar

Tobacco smokers - not welcome
Pole smokers - welcome


2 posted on 08/31/2011 5:54:14 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Abathar

I’d wager that some of the tobacco gestapo have no problem with firing up a doob in the dorm room.


3 posted on 08/31/2011 5:59:53 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: Abathar

These liberal enclaves with their nutty behavior are like watching an ant farm.


4 posted on 08/31/2011 6:02:32 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Abathar

The same college administrators that are pushing a smoke free campus were probably partying, putting headbands on, doing drugs, listening to the damn Beatle albums, and were the biggest pot heads on campus back during the ‘glorious’ late 60’s early 70’s.


5 posted on 08/31/2011 6:06:06 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Abathar

This is going to go over like a lead balloon. When my kids were in college I was amazed at the number of students that smoked, far greater that the general population. The only group that I know of that has a higher percentage of smokers is restaurant kitchen help.


6 posted on 08/31/2011 6:07:18 AM PDT by Bob Buchholz
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To: Abathar

I believe they grow a lot of tobacco in Kentucky. Even the baptists.


7 posted on 08/31/2011 6:07:33 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Abathar

What about a prayer meeting, how long will it take to shut them down?


8 posted on 08/31/2011 6:07:46 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Abathar

When fascism returns it will be wrapped in the flag of health-n-safety.


9 posted on 08/31/2011 6:10:21 AM PDT by relictele (Pax Quaeritur Bello)
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To: Bob Buchholz
The only group that I know of that has a higher percentage of smokers is restaurant kitchen help.

No excuses for the wait staff either. Drive round the back of an Outback some time and you will see half a dozen apron-clad types blazing away.

Any time your drink's empty and you wonder where they've gone...

The next obvious question is - do they wash their hands upon returning at least?

10 posted on 08/31/2011 6:12:43 AM PDT by relictele (Pax Quaeritur Bello)
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To: Abathar

I like lighting a long cigar and blowing it in the face of the tobacco nazis. Doesn’t hurt to also have a mouthful of Beech-Nut going to spit on them as well.


11 posted on 08/31/2011 6:13:46 AM PDT by NRA1995 (Obama couldn't run a lemonade stand. Let him eat peas!)
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To: relictele
No excuses for the wait staff either. Drive round the back of an Outback some time and you will see half a dozen apron-clad types blazing away.

drive past the front of my bar and you'll likely see one of us bartenders and half a dozen customers out there (stupid smoking ban)

Any time your drink's empty and you wonder where they've gone...


we always inform customers when we're going out, most of them join us.

The next obvious question is - do they wash their hands upon returning at least?


yes. state law (at least here) requires it.
12 posted on 08/31/2011 6:20:14 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: NRA1995

You should be taken out shot for that....

Not for smoking the cigar, for mixing it with Beechnut.....

:^)


13 posted on 08/31/2011 6:22:37 AM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: absolootezer0

Just so I’m clear: I oppose any and all smoking bans for the usual private property and consenting adult reasons but especially because the bans are usually passed by bluenoses who haven’t been in a bar or restaurant in years.

Local bars are quite different from cookie-cutter restaurants with their canned intro lines and lame suggestive selling. Apparently this causes nicotine cravings in their early-20s complement of employees.

I did enjoy the Ohio smoking ban debacle in which they had no enforcement personnel and open defiance by many establishments. In true bureaucrat fashion they responded by threatening to withhold liquor license renewals.


14 posted on 08/31/2011 6:25:14 AM PDT by relictele (Pax Quaeritur Bello)
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To: relictele

Many years ago - after entering my physician’s office - he reached into his desk and lit up a cigarette, exclaiming:

“I need a smoke - all those patients out there - make me nervous”!!!!

He was a great doctor!!!


15 posted on 08/31/2011 6:29:17 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair: Man's surrender. Laughter: God's redemption.)
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To: absolootezer0

More than anything else, smoking is the “great equalizer”.

CEOs will hang out back with the janitorial staff and shop workers and shoot the shit while having a smoke.


16 posted on 08/31/2011 6:29:49 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Mr. Bird

Some weeds are more equal than others.


17 posted on 08/31/2011 6:43:31 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: relictele

its not as much the nicotine craving, as it is a strong desire to get away from a table of jerks that you really want to dump a pot of hot soup on.


18 posted on 08/31/2011 6:43:46 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: MrB
Pole smokers - welcome

Smoking in the boys room means something very different in grade 13 and up high schools.

19 posted on 08/31/2011 6:50:00 AM PDT by Reeses (It's a safety net, not a hammock!)
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To: Abathar

A question for the smokers here expressing outrage about this: when you eventually wind up with COPD, heart disease, or one of the several cancers caused by tobacco use, will you pay your own astronomical healthcare costs out of pocket, or will you force us nonsmokers to pay for your choice to destroy your own body via our insurance?

Just curious.


20 posted on 08/31/2011 7:00:13 AM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: relictele

“do they wash their hands upon returning at least?”

Ya know, if they don’t wash their hands after having a cigarette I doubt if it causes a customer to explode.

Washing hands is a good thing, but it should be done in moderation. Life isn’t sanitary...


21 posted on 08/31/2011 7:07:14 AM PDT by Sporke (USS-Iowa BB-61)
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To: relictele
with their canned intro lines...

How's everything tasting?!

I now ask not to be asked that.

22 posted on 08/31/2011 7:09:58 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Zeddicus

Hey, guess what, when non-smokers get old, they have health problems too. That “smoker-healthcare” claim is a joke, and always has been.

If you want to go down that road, then let’s include candy, fast food, meat, mercury laced fish, active people, couch potatoes, etc. etc.

Some people will never be happy unless every other person in this country lives EXACTLY as they want them to.

It’s fine if you don’t smoke, God bless you, but that gives you ZERO right to inflict your life choices on anyone else.


23 posted on 08/31/2011 7:14:00 AM PDT by Sporke (USS-Iowa BB-61)
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To: Sporke

Right. Let’s set the standard as low as possible. Especially after they’ve used the back door which was handled by all manner of delivery types all day long.

Maybe they could lean up against the dumpster or grease trap. Y’know, just to get the full thrill-of-danger effect.


24 posted on 08/31/2011 7:25:43 AM PDT by relictele (Pax Quaeritur Bello)
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To: Last Dakotan

Yes but did you leave room for dessert?


25 posted on 08/31/2011 7:26:03 AM PDT by relictele (Pax Quaeritur Bello)
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To: Abathar

Why don’t they mind their own business.


26 posted on 08/31/2011 7:26:40 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: NRA1995

Smoking causes “Busy Bodies” and “Statistics”.


27 posted on 08/31/2011 7:27:55 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: sodpoodle

I remember when my doctor smoked and there were several ashtrays in his waiting room.


28 posted on 08/31/2011 7:33:16 AM PDT by muggs (Hope and Change = Hoax and Chains)
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To: Zeddicus

Are you non-smokers willing to pay double social security taxes so that a nurse can change your diapers and wipe your butt for your last 20 years?


29 posted on 08/31/2011 7:36:55 AM PDT by Reeses (It's a safety net, not a hammock!)
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To: muggs
That is not such an unusual memory, I remember when everybody smoked, everywhere, all the time. Doctors offices, hospitals, movie theaters on buses, trains and planes. It was acceptable behavior, a non smoker never even considered asking anyone to step outside.
30 posted on 08/31/2011 7:38:27 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Zeddicus
or will you force us nonsmokers to pay for your choice to destroy your own body via our insurance?

I would.

Just as I'm expected to pay for the morbidly obese, anorexics, alcoholics, people who engage in risky sports, jockeys who could get trampled by a horse, and busybody pecksniffs who routinely get the crap beaten out of them by normal people.

31 posted on 08/31/2011 7:39:21 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Abathar
most prohibit smoking on all campus grounds

Ahh yes. Because its so well established how very effective Prohibition was....And we've GOT THE POLICE POWER TO PROVE IT!!!

Such a lovely environment for free enquiry--great way to pass along democratic FASCIST values.

32 posted on 08/31/2011 7:43:24 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: Sporke
Total nonsense. Ever heard the phrase "compressed morbidity"?

Yes, everyone eventually succumbs to something and dies. But it is simple fact that horrible lifestyle choices like smoking, obesity, and alcohol abuse result in chronic illness that is outrageously expensive to treat and lasts decades. Live healthy, and you stand an excellent chance of living a long life with a much shorter period of illness at the very end.

I work in healthcare (emergency medicine) and I see this stuff every day. The costs of personal lifestyle choices and the burden it puts on our healthcare system are mind boggling.

33 posted on 08/31/2011 7:53:05 AM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: Sporke
Total nonsense. Ever heard the phrase "compressed morbidity"?

Yes, everyone eventually succumbs to something and dies. But it is simple fact that horrible lifestyle choices like smoking, obesity, and alcohol abuse result in chronic illness that is outrageously expensive to treat and lasts decades. Live healthy, and you stand an excellent chance of living a long life with a much shorter period of illness at the very end.

I work in healthcare (emergency medicine) and I see this stuff every day. The costs of personal lifestyle choices and the burden it puts on our healthcare system are mind boggling.

34 posted on 08/31/2011 7:53:15 AM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: Zeddicus

Remarkable isn’t it - that life expectancy increased during the period when smokers comprised 75% of adults?

YOUR insurance?

Insurance is no longer ‘shared risk for unexpected illness & injury’ - the so-called ‘plans’ now include procedures that would have been declared as ‘elective’ in earlier decades i.e.- IVF and regular pregnancy, contraception, abortion,viagra, stomach stapling, sex changes, joint replacement.

All the conditions you mention occur in non-smokers BTW.


35 posted on 08/31/2011 7:56:40 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair: Man's surrender. Laughter: God's redemption.)
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To: Zeddicus
A question for the smokers here expressing outrage about this: when you eventually wind up with COPD, heart disease, or one of the several cancers caused by tobacco use, will you pay your own astronomical healthcare costs out of pocket, or will you force us nonsmokers to pay for your choice to destroy your own body via our insurance?

Neither. We will go on a week-long shooting spree, taking out as many nonsmokers as possible.

Not smoking cigarettes is VERY unhealthy.

36 posted on 08/31/2011 7:59:08 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If Hitler had been as lazy as Obama, the 1940's would have been a very nice decade!!)
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To: Zeddicus

If you fail to smoke cigarettes, the odds are that a rampaging smoker will shoot you all to death.


37 posted on 08/31/2011 8:00:15 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If Hitler had been as lazy as Obama, the 1940's would have been a very nice decade!!)
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To: relictele

“Maybe they could lean up against the dumpster or grease trap. Y’know, just to get the full thrill-of-danger effect.”

So what if they did? The chances of someone doing both of those things and someone getting sick because of it is miniscule at best.

I bet you don’t even observe the time honored practice of the 5 second rule (10 if you’re watching sports).


38 posted on 08/31/2011 8:02:48 AM PDT by Sporke (USS-Iowa BB-61)
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To: Zeddicus

Fine, you win.

When you have the time, please send us all a list of the things in life you are allowing us to do.


39 posted on 08/31/2011 8:06:24 AM PDT by Sporke (USS-Iowa BB-61)
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To: Sporke

Depends on how much I’ve had to drink and if the pizza lands crust first on the sidewalk.

But seriously, if you’re asking me to approve of workers whose job SPECIFICALLY involves the handling of food, glassware, cutlery etc. avoiding hand-washing especially after smoking or being outdoors I’m afraid we’ll have to agree to disagree. The play-the-percentages game may be an amusing diversion but if a waitress can’t be bothered to wash out of courtesy as opposed to some nanny state edict I probably won’t be back.


40 posted on 08/31/2011 8:13:58 AM PDT by relictele (Pax Quaeritur Bello)
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To: Abathar

Supreme irony - smoke tobacco, walk the plank; smoke marijuana, be a BMOC.

What passes for logic these days.


41 posted on 08/31/2011 8:16:01 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Lazamataz

Said rampaging smoker would likely encounter returning fire.

Look, I really don’t care if people want to destroy their major organ systems with lifestyle choices. It’s job security for me, as these people comprise more than half of the patients I see.


42 posted on 08/31/2011 8:23:09 AM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: Lazamataz

Said rampaging smoker would likely encounter returning fire.

Look, I really don’t care if people want to destroy their major organ systems with lifestyle choices. It’s job security for me, as these people comprise more than half of the patients I see.


43 posted on 08/31/2011 8:23:19 AM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: nevergore; NRA1995

yeah it should be Redman not Beechnut.


44 posted on 08/31/2011 8:23:43 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: Zeddicus
Said rampaging smoker would likely encounter returning fire.

Check your magazine. I emptied it.

45 posted on 08/31/2011 8:25:53 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If Hitler had been as lazy as Obama, the 1940's would have been a very nice decade!!)
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To: Zeddicus
When I become President, we are going to FORCE people to smoke.


46 posted on 08/31/2011 8:27:50 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If Hitler had been as lazy as Obama, the 1940's would have been a very nice decade!!)
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To: Ratman83

Uuggh! You will be sacrificed to the Cigar Tobacco Gods for that... :^)

Happily puffing away on a nice Drew Estates cigar as I type....Nothing like FReeping with a good cigar....


47 posted on 08/31/2011 8:32:16 AM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: Sporke

Do whatever you want. Just don’t make me pay for it, k?

If I had the option of signing on to a basic health insurance plan that doesn’t cover alchohol, tobacco, drug, or obesity related chronic illness, I would. Then I really couldn’t care less how someone else chooses to ruin their body.


48 posted on 08/31/2011 8:33:28 AM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: Zeddicus
A question for the smokers here expressing outrage about this: when you eventually wind up with COPD, heart disease, or one of the several cancers caused by tobacco use, will you pay your own astronomical healthcare costs out of pocket, or will you force us nonsmokers to pay for your choice to destroy your own body via our insurance?

A question for the statists here who support restrictions such as this: when you are old and feeble, suffering from alzheimers and must wear diapers and be fed by someone else and totally dependent upon others for the simplest of tasks, will you pay your own astronomical health care costs out of pocket, or will you force us smokers, who you people claim live shorter lives, to pay for your choice to out live your usefulness via our insurance?

Just curious.

49 posted on 08/31/2011 8:34:51 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: relictele

As a rule, it would be nice if people with food related jobs wash their hands, I’ll give you that. I’m just more of a realist. People get behind in their work and hand washing is the first thing that goes out the window. It might not be proper, or legal, but I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it.

One thing you said got me to thinking...
If you’re sober, and a slice of pizza lands on the floor (tile, and appearing clean, in this example) crust down, you wouldn’t observe the 5 second rule?

Pizza, like a mind, is a terrible thing to waste... :)


50 posted on 08/31/2011 8:36:53 AM PDT by Sporke (USS-Iowa BB-61)
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