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Far right questions Rick Perry on immigration
http://www.buffalonews.com/wire-feeds/24-hour-national-news/article519397.ece ^ | 8-11-2011 | Christopher Sherman

Posted on 08/13/2011 12:31:57 PM PDT by raybbr

McALLEN, Texas (AP) - For all of his rock-solid conservative credentials, Texas Gov. Rick Perry may have an Achilles' heel: immigration.

Perry will undoubtedly focus his presidential campaign on Texas' relatively healthy economy and its low taxes and his record in creating jobs in the 11 years he's been governor. What he may have to explain on the stump is how illegal immigrants have contributed to that success, adding as much as $17.7 billion a year to the state gross product and enjoying such benefits as in-state tuition at public universities.

"Gov. Perry is very eager to appear tough on illegal immigration, but upon closer inspection he's part of the problem," complained William Gheen, who runs the North Carolina-based political action committee Americans for Legal Immigration. The group intends to educate conservative groups about candidates' positions on that issue.

Tea party criticism about Perry's immigration record is now appearing on activist blogs in Arizona and New Hampshire.

A 2006 state report said that the state's illegal immigrants - 1.4 million then, 1.65 million now - added $17.7 billion to the gross state product, and that the state came out ahead on taxes it collected versus services it provided. But local governments and county hospitals were shouldering the burden of caring for that population.

The Texas Association of Business, which has backed Perry in all his gubernatorial campaigns and has members who individually have provided Perry with hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign cash, touted that report in its firm support of comprehensive immigration reform. TAB, the state's chamber of commerce, has lobbied for immigration reform and against state legislation regulating immigration.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; formerdemocratperry; hucklebytwo; illegals; immigration; openborders; perry2012; perryrecord; rino; sourcetitlenoturl; teaparty
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To: LibLieSlayer

Never said he did, but the man is not here and this attributing this and that to him, because they have one of those magic 8 ball things gets a little old and tiring.


61 posted on 08/13/2011 1:39:14 PM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: lonestar67
NOT learning from Reagan's mistake of trusting kennedy and the rats on Amnesty as well as trusting tipp o'neill and the rat turds on tax increases in exchange for promised future spending cuts... is a major negative. We need to look no further than the recent debacle of boehner and the rinoids passing a bill built on the same misplaced trust of proved liars and thieves (dims). Reagan was not perfect... but he was a GREAT PRESIDENT... and repeating his mistakes is not the hallmark of a great leader. Reagan would never have passed a second Amnesty nor did he pass any further tax increases... because he learned from his mistakes... which I wish that I could say the same for many other republicans... many that presently hold office and many that are running for office today.

LLS

62 posted on 08/13/2011 1:42:14 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Certified Al Palin Hobbit Terrorist)
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To: areukiddingme1

“... I just don’t think they can beat the Maxist.”

What good is beating the [Democratic] “Marxist” with a Republican Marxist who will pass the same things?

Like RomneyCare. And Bush and the Republican congress passing the Medicare drug program and Ted Kennedy’s No Child Left Behind.

The reality is that most of the time we have two left-wing parties in this country and it doesn’t make any difference which one wins. They both pass the same “bipartisan” legislation.

Things only change on those rare occasions when conservatives temporarily take over the Republican Party (Reagan presidency, Gingrich speakership).

I’m not going to vote for a RINO who believes the same things as Obama in order to get rid of Obama. I voted third party conservative instead of McCain last election, and if an establishment Republican runs next year I’ll do the same.


63 posted on 08/13/2011 1:42:30 PM PDT by Siegfried X
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To: silverleaf

How hard can it be to convince conservatives not to vote for an open borders former democrat who has a long record of pushing socialist programs?

Fait accompli, as conservatives won’t vote for Al Gore’s former campaign manager no matter how you try to refurbish him.

All the Giuliani libertines will push him though.


64 posted on 08/13/2011 1:44:18 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: raybbr
BINGO!!!!! The rinos want a rino, who would have thought it, now all they need to do is stretch the brand new Acme costume over the rino, making him look like Mr Reagan, and they are home free, trouble is the damn horn keeps stick out.
65 posted on 08/13/2011 1:44:51 PM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: GailA

Thats kind of the rub. Business, tends to vote republican, who are on the side of controlling illegal immigration. But business likes cheap labor. What many of the left side of the issue, Hispanics etc, don’t sem to get it that illegal immigrant labor tends to depress wages in the nonskilled sector of the economy thereby making it a more difficult climb to the middle class. They also don’t seem to have any problem with young US born citizens having a more difficult time finding entry level employment out of high school. Young kids in college will for the most part vote for anybody that will give them a handout, tuition etc.

The problem lies with shutting down illegal immigration first so that the country can find a formula for dealing with those illegals already here including deportation, possible work only cards and taxing money sent out of the country. I definitely don’t want to see them given ammnesty and a easy path for citizenship. They have not earned it above those that play by the rules.


66 posted on 08/13/2011 1:48:31 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: cripplecreek
But isn't the favorite worn out tired refrain of the Libtards and Liberal open borders cheap labor loving Republicans?!
67 posted on 08/13/2011 1:48:50 PM PDT by Ron H. (Loving my Deering Goodtime 2 Classic)
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To: Siegfried X

Rove and Perry had a falling out in the ‘90s. Still haven’t patched things up.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/59687.html


68 posted on 08/13/2011 1:50:34 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: org.whodat
BINGO!!!!! The rinos want a rino, who would have thought it, now all they need to do is stretch the brand new Acme costume over the rino, making him look like Mr Reagan, and they are home free, trouble is the damn horn keeps stick out.

Now that was just funny!
69 posted on 08/13/2011 1:51:18 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: LibLieSlayer

The other thing domestically he did that really, really, really, pissed me was closing down those nuclear power plants that were under construction. I bet half the people here do not know that Reagan was anti nuclear power. The harm to business men in those locations was terrible.


70 posted on 08/13/2011 1:53:23 PM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: silverleaf; dragnet2
So, I guess obama has your vote!

Good luck with that


Ah the ever-present false choice thrown out when a supporter of questionable conservative credentials actually has to confront somebody willing to talk about their candidate's less than conservative history.

We are in the primaries friend, not the general, leave the "My candidate is less evil than your candidate" questionable logic until then, ok?
71 posted on 08/13/2011 1:53:46 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: silverleaf
the first mission of the democrat machine and their MEdia operatives is to persuade Republicans and conservatives to not vote for Rick Perry

I can't speak for others here that have serious qualms with a Perry candidacy but I for one have lived in Texas and vote conservative and I know Perry's dismal record on immigration related issues. I study carefully the issues and the candidates and I say Perry wants open borders/open trade with Mexico and it all starts with turning Texas into a Mexican state of Mexico by eliminating our sovereign borders. IMO Pery wants no part of stopping illegal immigration.

72 posted on 08/13/2011 1:54:49 PM PDT by Ron H. (Loving my Deering Goodtime 2 Classic)
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To: raybbr

The question of the illegals is the whole ball of wax for the future of our country.

If they get amnesty and voting rights for the illegals, then eventually they will get their 60 Democrat senators and majority House control. It’s just a matter of time. California is the future.

If that happens, Obamacare will seem like a quaint capitalist program. We will go straight to single payer health care, and eventual nationalization of the banking and energy industries as well.

Socialism always and everywhere destroys what it controls, and it will destroy the USA too if it comes to power.


73 posted on 08/13/2011 1:58:20 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: cripplecreek

Now I went and wet myself.

LLS


74 posted on 08/13/2011 2:03:56 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Certified Al Palin Hobbit Terrorist)
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To: Meet the New Boss

“The question of the illegals is the whole ball of wax for the future of our country.”

I agree and there another reason which is even more important: the rule of law. If presidents and governors can refuse to enforce whatever laws they disagree with, then we are living in anarchy and chaos, not a democracy.

There are other examples too like the Democratic governors in Illinois refuse to execute any prisoners but instead automatically commute all death sentences into life in prison.


75 posted on 08/13/2011 2:06:18 PM PDT by Siegfried X
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To: areukiddingme1
Any Conservative that is a true Conservative can beat obama... anyone that will take it to the kenyan and not hold back in any way... that person can beat obama... LLS said that... Rush Limbaugh said that... Mark Levin said that... and Perry is not the only candidate that can beat him... and all any of you have that say otherwise... is just your own opinion... backed by... more opinion. The difference between my opinion and yours is the quality and intuitive understanding of those like Limbaugh and Levin that agree with me.

LLS

76 posted on 08/13/2011 2:10:05 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Certified Al Palin Hobbit Terrorist)
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To: cradle of freedom
McCain was a veteran too. So was John Murtha.

And so was John (3 Purple Heart's) Kerry.

77 posted on 08/13/2011 2:10:54 PM PDT by Ron H. (Loving my Deering Goodtime 2 Classic)
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To: org.whodat
One of my degrees is in American History and I worked on both of Reagan's campaigns in my state and I was alive and engaged during his tenure and I have read extensively on Reagan and I fully understand his positions and his actions... AND I am presently reading “Ronald Reagan... THE NOTES” by Douglas Brinkely.

Nothing like going to the man's own words for his wisdom and thought processes.

LLS

78 posted on 08/13/2011 2:13:49 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Certified Al Palin Hobbit Terrorist)
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To: wolfcreek

Well that is one positive for Perry... rove is an evil pos.

LLS


79 posted on 08/13/2011 2:15:27 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Certified Al Palin Hobbit Terrorist)
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To: LibLieSlayer

So you are not willing to state who you are supporting?


80 posted on 08/13/2011 2:20:58 PM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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