So you din't think much of this guy either.
Posted on 07/31/2011 6:54:07 PM PDT by smoothsailing
Alana Goodman
July 31, 2011
How’s this for an impressive feat – without even entering the GOP presidential race, Gov. Rick Perry has somehow managed to position himself as one of the Republican frontrunners, according to the latest Rasmussen poll. Mitt Romney is still leading the presidential field at 22 percent in the latest poll of likely Republican voters, but Gov. Rick Perry is already nipping at his heels at 18 percent.
Much of this has to do with the fact that Romney’s support has dropped 11 points since Rasmussen’s post-debate poll in mid-July. Bachmann had come in second in that survey, but now she slightly trails Perry at 16 percent.
Another indication Bachmann’s momentum might be subsiding a bit: Perry also beats her among self-proclaimed Tea Partiers, 28 percent to 22 percent — the one demographic where Bachmann has been expected to maintain an edge.
In fact, while Perry is considered by many to be an “establishment” candidate, his potential entrance in the race appears to pose more of a risk to Bachmann than Romney. Among non-Tea Party Republicans, Romney still surpasses Perry, 29 percent to 13 percent.
The poll also showed Tim Pawlenty’s valiant attempts to keep his head above water have had little impact on Republican voters so far. The self-proclaimed “comeback kid” actually cut his support in half since Rasmussen’s June poll, pulling in a paltry 3 percent. Making matters worse: he’s even polling behind Newt Gingrich’s dead-in-the-water campaign (6 percent) and Herman Cain (9 percent), who probably has more of a chance at winning the presidential nomination in the Islamic Republic of Iran than he does in the Republican Party. At least Pawlenty can take solace in the fact he’s still leading the luckless Jon Huntsman, albeit by just one percentage point.
I’m sorry but this poll is crap because it doesn’t include Palin, but it includes Perry, but both are undeclared.
Understand that when Perry entered politics (1984), the Republican party in Texas essentially didn't exist outside of Dallas and Midland.
In Haskell County, where he's from, there was no Republican ticket to run on. In rural Texas, if you wanted a political career, it would be as a Democrat. A conservative (Southern) Democrat, it might be noted.
Something like half the elected Republican officials in Texas probably began their political careers as Democrats.
And it's not like these guys were ever liberal Democrats.
I don’t know much about Perry. Can he talk smooth? We are going to need someone who can match the King of Smooth Talkers. I wish Paul Ryan was running. He can talk as well as Obama and looks like a nice guy.
I certainly hope you're right. What a great ticket! Two strong-willed conservative Governors from our two largest energy producing states! Can you say "Drill, Baby, Drill!!!"
There is a big difference between being a democrat in the 1930s and 1940s, versus choosing to become an anti-Reagan democrat during the Reagan Revolution, and choosing as your anti-Reagan champions Carter, Mondale, Al Gore, and Dukakis in heads up battles with the Reagan Revolution.
I don’t have anything against Perrry yet, then again I know nothing of him. But he is clearly the last ABP and ABB (Bachmann) candidate the estabs have left. The media and the ruling class hate the Tea Party and want to stop it badly. They may see Perry as the last “reasonable” one because Jeb ain’t gonna fly and Christie won’t get in and is having big fat breahing problems (get well soon Chris). Romney’s support I’m guessing is really anemic in reality. T-Paw blew it early with that scaredy cat routine with Romney and has never recovered. Too bad, I kinda like T-Paw.
Palin 2012.
ha.
In 1984 Reagan carried Texas with 64% of the vote, he got my vote, and I assume yours, but he didn't get Perry's.
Perry decided to join and run as a democrat in the middle of the Reagan Revolution, he was still fighting Reagan when he was Al Gore's campaign chairman in 1989, and then voted for Michael Dukakis against Reagan's veep.
Seriously, a junior congressman with zero executive experience winning the Presidency? When is the last time that happened? She would certainly be a vast improvement over the current President, but I don’t think she has much of a chance. If Palin does not get in, I believe it will be either Perry or Romney, if Perry decides to run. I do not know about you, but I would gladly vote Perry over Romney if that were the choice. I think it depends on if Palin or Perry or both decide to run. I do not think Cain or Bachmann have much chance of winning the nomination and both will likely be out before the Texas primary next year.
Texas started voting Republican in presidential elections with Eisenhower in 1952.
But, in most of the state, there was no GOP to be a part of. How many Republican Congressmen were there from Texas at the time? One -- Jim Collins, out of North Dallas. There hadn't been a Republican governor in how many years?
You're from Texas, ansel, you should know that.
I'm not trying to promote Perry, dammit. I'm trying to explain to another FReeper why he started his political career as a Democrat.
By the way, how do you know Perry didn't vote for Reagan? Did he tell you? Obviously, millions of Texas Democrats voted for Reagan. Maybe Perry was one of them...
This is very good news and it’s the point of the election— to beat Obama, and hopefully with the candidate who first can put Romney out of commission as the nominee. Perry can do both those things if he runs well. Actually, Romney can beat Obama but Perry is so much more conservative. No one else has a prayer, because the Independents are going to come in droves to our primary and they are no Tea Party members. They will come in leaning Romney, or Perry. Our various bots will split five ways from Sunday and won’t be a force if they don’t get behind a general election winner. (IMHO).
So you din't think much of this guy either.
When a man decides to become a democrat politician in 1984 and is campaign chairman for Al Gore 4 years later in the next Presidential race, trying to defeat Reagan's veep, then I can safely say that he is a democrat, it is up to him to prove to me that he was secretly voting for the party that he was devoting his life to defeating.
You really need to stretch that out a few more decades. Ronald Reagan was a registered Democrat until 1962, throughout the entire Eisenhower Administration. Do we know whether the Gipper voted for Ike or Adlai, and for that matter do we know if Perry voted for the Gipper or Jimmy and Walter?
We do know with certainly that Reagan switched parties 2 years after Ike left office. Perry did the same thing 1 year after Reagan left office.
I applaud them both, how about you?
When did being WATCHFUL go out of style?
Your little story was misleading, Reagan was campaigning for Republicans in the 1950s, he was an Eisenhower man, Truman in 1948 was his last Democrat.
Reagan was a democrat before the 50s, the wild 1960s, Vietnam, LBJ, Goldwater, abortion gay power, feminism, Jimmy Carter, and President Reagan, and the Reagan Revolution, Perry signed up as the opposition after Jimmy Carter, and in the heart of the Reagan Revolution when Texas was going 64% Reagan.
It makes a difference which decade, which historical period that the party change was made by an individual, were you unchanged by Reagan, were you signing up as Al Gore’s campaign chairman in 1988?
In polls that I’ve seen that included them both, they tend to both perform about the same, so I suspect they would have tied for third in this poll with Bachmann finishing second.
IMO if Perry gets in Palin won’t. Especially if Perry gets in and jumps to 1st or 2nd place and starts getting the big money donors. I think Palin is waiting to see if Perry gets in and if he does what type of resonse he gets.
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