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Faith Leaders Meet with Obama to Protect Welfare State
The Foundry/Heritage Foundation ^ | July 23, 2011 | Ryan Messmore

Posted on 07/23/2011 8:36:01 PM PDT by Clairity

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To: Clairity

I guess these leaders never got as far as the 10 commandments in their studies. Thou shall not covet other people’s stuff. Not even for what you consider good reasons.


21 posted on 07/24/2011 5:22:44 AM PDT by all the best
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To: Carry_Okie; Clairity

You need to tell Salvation Army how you feel. Won’t do any good if they don’t know.


22 posted on 07/24/2011 5:51:59 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Jedidah
The Salvation Army National Headquarters
615 Slaters Lane
P.O. Box 269
Alexandria, VA 22313

Dear Sirs,

I noted with dismay that the Salvation Army was represented among Christian leaders who met with President Obama at the White House on July 12 to express concerns about the prospect of budget cuts to government welfare. I thought you knew that funds conscripted by force are not charity; indeed, they are destructive to charity, inherently antithetical to its function.

Until the New Deal, government social services were virtually unknown. America relied upon two principal means to provide assistance to those in need: families and local private charities, especially churches. These small private charitable institutions (we are not talking about United Way here) seek one thing in dispensing assistance that government does not:

They desire (if not demand) that the recipient become self-supporting as soon as possible.

Sources of private social services are structurally motivated to help the needy get better (if possible) because they don't want to part with money and effort without cause. If the cause of dependency is voluntary, one should expect that the recipient should repent of counterproductive behavior before offering assistance. That is what the Salvation Army stood for from its inception.

It's truly sad that this can't be said about most government social services agencies, some of which structurally prevent recipients from freeing themselves from public assistance. Similarly, the people who work for these agencies don't have jobs without customers. Without a steady supply of the needy, the criminal, or the sick, social welfare budgets dry up and the jobs blow away. Meanwhile, the extremely wealthy with an interest in government influence end up as the financial beneficiaries of public support for social welfare. Thus, these programs have no reason to discontinue while they impoverish the middle class. To support such policy is immoral.

From Noah ‘finding grace in the sight of the Lord” in Genesis 6 to Christ’s forgiveness of the thief on the cross, without repentance, there is no relief from sin. Never once did Jesus ask if the cause of distress He was to heal was without fault; indeed, He said He often announced that those receiving the Father’s healing were forgiven at the moment they were healed.

Isn’t it obvious that public policies have been destructive to families and private charities? Isn't it obvious that they structurally abet immoral and self destructive behaviors? They have cost America incalculable wealth from which charity originates, whether in lost productivity or the cost of government services simply because of the motivational differences between private social services and a professional bureaucracy. Therefore, this action on the part of the Salvation Army, supposedly on behalf of the poor, is equally self-destructive, destructive to the poor, and especially destructive to America as a whole because of the moral force it has historically exemplified, until now.

I do not support self-destructive and immoral behavior without repentance of it. Hence, I will no longer support the Salvation Army with my donations. It truly saddens me that this great institution of private giving has been reduced to this pass.

Please repent,

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23 posted on 07/24/2011 7:10:54 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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BTTT,

Of course, GWB opened the door to this with the thought “those other charities are getting in line for govt reimbursement, so why not us too?”

And now that the govt is bankrupt, the charities can’t bear to have Big Momma’s breast, filled with the milk of human coercion, drawn away from them, and so they clamor too that the deficit reductions should not affect them.


24 posted on 07/24/2011 8:45:28 AM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (How humanitarian are "leaders" who back Malthusian, Utilitarian & Green nutcases?)
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i guess these asshats are more concerned with appeasing the bambam and protecting their tax staus than they are about actually receiving charitable donations...

the socialist indoctrination has finally matured...

25 posted on 07/24/2011 10:42:48 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Carry_Okie

Good for you.


26 posted on 07/24/2011 10:49:28 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Clairity; All

GRRRRREAT thread! Thanks to EVERY poster. BTTT! DEFUND socialist collectives, foreign and domestic.


27 posted on 07/24/2011 8:22:57 PM PDT by PGalt
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