The Long Form Birth Certificate (National Review Shows the Photo but it's the COLB)

National Review ^ | 04/27/2011 | Daniel Foster

[SeekAndFind]

Here’s the long-form birth certificate, so birthers can get to work on explaining why we now need a photograph of President Obama’s parents standing in front of Kapiolani hospital with a copy of the August 4, 1961 edition of the Honolulu Star Advertiser  in one hand and a complete genome in the other.

Here’s White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer’s full statement on the matter:

In 2008, in response to media inquiries, the President’s campaign requested his birth certificate from the state of Hawaii. The state sent the campaign the President’s birth certificate, the same legal documentation provided to all Hawaiians as proof of birth in state, and the campaign immediately posted it on the internet. That birth certificate can be seen here (PDF).

When any citizen born in Hawaii requests their birth certificate, they receive exactly what the President received. In fact, the document posted on the campaign website is what Hawaiians use to get a driver’s license from the state and the document recognized by the Federal Government and the courts for all legal purposes. That’s because it is the birth certificate. This is not and should not be an open question.

The President believed the distraction over his birth certificate wasn’t good for the country. It may have been good politics and good TV, but it was bad for the American people and distracting from the many challenges we face as a country. Therefore, the President directed his counsel to review the legal authority for seeking access to the long form certificate and to request on that basis that the Hawaii State Department of Health make an exception to release a copy of his long form birth certificate. They granted that exception in part because of the tremendous volume of requests they had been getting. President Barack Obama’s long form birth certificate can be seen here (PDF):

At a time of great consequence for this country – when we should be debating how we win the future, reduce our deficit, deal with high gas prices, and bring stability to the Middle East, Washington, DC, was once again distracted by a fake issue.  The President’s hope is that with this step, we can move on to debating the bigger issues that matter to the American people and the future of the country.

And here’s the White House’s correspondence with the Hawaii State Department of Health.

What else is happening today? Donald Trump is going to New Hampshire.

[Mila]

"If this is the “long form,” what does a “short form” look like?"

[philman_36]

...the President’s campaign requested his birth certificate from the state of Hawaii.
The "campaign" couldn't request, much less receive, a birth certificate because it conflicts with the privacy laws.

When will Congress act since it's now known that his father wasn't a US citizen and a child of his loins can't be a natural born citizen?

[hummingbird]

Thanks, Blue Turtle:

I dragged out my BLACK’S LAW DICTIONARY and CONSTITUTIONAL LAW (HORNBOOK SERIES) but they are still as big as I remember them so I’m so glad you provided information!

[philman_36]

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution.
No it doesn't. Title 8 deals with naturalization. Congress only has authority to issue legislation concerning naturalization.

Article 1, Clause 4. The Congress shall have Power...To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization...
Congress can't legislate natural born citizenship.

You look like you don't have even the simplest understanding of the Constitution when you post statements like yours.

[ironman]

“In 2008, in response to media inquiries, the President’s campaign requested his birth certificate from the state of Hawaii.”

Minor point but his Communications Director shoiuld strive to be accurate. The short form certification was stamped June 6, 2007.

[ml/nj]

The term "Natural Born" comes from Vattel.

It was around for a long time before Vattel. He just used it. Here's what the OED says:

Pay close attention to the example from 1709.

ML/NJ

[hummingbird]

Thank you for your research.

But when the media went to Kenya, one of his aunts said he was born in Kenya because she helped with the birthing.

And, Michelle said (maybe she didn’t mean to; maybe it was an unfortunate
slip) something about Obama was in Kenya to visit his home country or homeland.

I’ll try to find exact quote.

[servantboy777]

The framers of the constitution attempted to preclude those with dual citizenship.

The concern was loyalties to the British Crown.

[philman_36]

In that act, it said any person...born in the United States is "Natural Born".
Perhaps you should read the law and get back with me.
“An act to establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization” (1790 & 1795).

I don't see what you see.
1790...And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens: Provided...

1795...the children of citizens of the United States, born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, shall be considered as citizens of the United States: Provided...

[hummingbird]

Hi, Fresh Wind:

Does “”6085 Kalanianaole Highway” exist and is it an address for residential.

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"Pay close attention to the example from 1709."

Pay closer attention to what the first Congress defined as Natural Born when passing the Naturalization Act of 1790. They said that anyone born here was a "Natural Born Citizen".

[hummingbird]

Maybe he will attack it tonight but maybe he is letting others, like Freepers) handle the big stuff now and to go through the Constitution later.

Levin is great!!! Guess that's why they call him “The Great One.” LOL

[ml/nj]

Pay closer attention to what the first Congress defined as Natural Born when passing the Naturalization Act of 1790. They said that anyone born here was a "Natural Born Citizen".

Really? Do you have a cite to a text of this act? The Congress did something similar with the word dollar. I would consider an Act of Congress that dealt with the definition of natural-born to have ended any discussion of the issue.

ML/NJ

[hummingbird]

I thought he already showed his b. c. and now he shows this one; do they match.

I will check them when I can find the first one; so he has two different b.c. ??

[blau993]

Take a large book to a photocopier, and try to copy a page out of the book without breaking the binding. One side of your copy is going to look exactly like the left-hand side of this document. Believe me, when I was practicing law, I did this probably thousands of times with big texts and case books. You usually wind up having to pencil in something from the side of the page because the copy is blurred on that side. We have been told all along that the original birth certificates were kept in binders, and this looks exactly like a page copied from a binder.

This document does not look like it was copied from microfiche -- the copy is too clear, and it does not have the black borders that microfiche copies usually have. That does not mean, of course, that there isn't a copy of this on microfiche. It would be reasonable for a state to back up important documents like birth certificates, and microfiche was state of the art document backup for many years.

I think this document puts the "birth" question to rest, not that I ever thought that was an issue. Move on to the school records. that's where the good stuff is going to be found.

[wideminded]

However, these same founders went on to further define in the Naturalization act of 1790 (notice that is the very first Congress) what a Natural Born Citizen is. We don't need to consult Vattel. The Founders defined it legislatively. In that act, it said any person (it was white person at the time, later laws included everyone) born in the United States is "Natural Born".

Actually the Naturalization Act of 1790 says: "And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens. ... ".

I don't see anywhere else that this law mentions the term "natural born". So it doesn't exactly define "natural born citizen", although probably someone could make a case that the definition is implied. Nor does this act discuss the case in which one parent is not a citizen.

[blau993]

I doubt that he became a citizen of Kenya merely because his father was Kenyan, but that would be a matter of Kenyan law. Even if Kenyan law did say he was a citizen, that would simply mean he had dual citizenship. Unless he had renounced his American citizenship, he would still be an American citizen, and I would have no problem (on THAT point), with him being President.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: Move on to the school records. that’s where the good stuff is going to be found.

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I say we focus on the issue of his FATHER’s CITIZENSHIP at his time of birth and determine if that meets the constitutional definition of NATURAL-BORN.

THAT is where the focus should lie. Unless we have a fixed, solid understanding of the term ‘Natural Born’ this issue is going to crop up again in the future.

[Vigilanteman]

See the graphic in Post #38.

[Vigilanteman]

British East Africa was dissolved in 1920 and the portion which became the Colony of Kenya was organized in its place. Kenya became fully independent in 1963, so even if they are talking about the area at the time ObaMao's daddy was born, the political entity of British East Africa has been gone nearly two decades.