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No More Tea?
National Review On-Line ^ | March 31, 2011 | Michael Barone

Posted on 04/02/2011 9:06:20 AM PDT by Twotone

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To: Twotone
As a Tea Party member I say that we are sitting back and staying out of the fray until time comes when we are needed.
Most Tea Partiers have family and jobs and other things to do but protest.
We are reading books and the Constitution. We are looking over the motley array of candidates to choose from and just minding our own business.
We are still here and we are not going away.
21 posted on 04/02/2011 9:36:08 AM PDT by lucky american (If you think the Libs care about your health.....LOLOLOL)
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To: Navy Patriot
"Democrats such as former party chairman Howard Dean gleefully anticipate a government shutdown,

The screamer gleefully anticipated his candidacy for President, and "Swiftboat" Kerry's victory, as well."

The fact that anyone still pays any attention to what Howard Dean has to say is proof enough of how deeply Liberal lies and and insanity have become so mainstream--thanks to their takeover of the media and the education system-- that many Americans can no longer recognize them for being precisely that.

22 posted on 04/02/2011 9:36:59 AM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: Twotone

We’ve made very clear that we are done with the same old garbage. Our “leaders” need to prove that they can get the job done without constant direction, instruction and hand holding. This is a test. If they fail the test they won’t be around very long.

The libs are too ignorant and selfish to take our mandates seriously. The Rs have a chance to prove that they do. If they let us down there will be payback.


23 posted on 04/02/2011 9:40:17 AM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: bray

“We are in a struggle to the death of either communism or America.”

I realize there are lots of local Tea Party chapters and events, but the Tea Party needs a huge HIGH PROFILE EVENT like a major march on DC. A million people in one place makes a strong visual statement. This can’t happen soon enough. 2012 is fast approaching.


24 posted on 04/02/2011 9:42:42 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: DeadFurrow
This movement will take time. Three words of advice, patience, patience, patience. I know we live in difficult times, so did our founding fathers.

Well said, Dead! Not everyone was on board with the founders either, but they persisted.

25 posted on 04/02/2011 9:42:49 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Wisconsin taxpayers - don't go wobbly on us now!)
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To: kabar
Worth repeating to recognize the effect that exporting jobs has had on manufacturing. Government jobs have not been exported.

"If you want to understand better why so many states—from New York to Wisconsin to California—are teetering on the brink of bankruptcy, consider this depressing statistic: Today in America there are nearly twice as many people working for the government (22.5 million) than in all of manufacturing (11.5 million). This is an almost exact reversal of the situation in 1960, when there were 15 million workers in manufacturing and 8.7 million collecting a paycheck from the government."

26 posted on 04/02/2011 9:42:49 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: bwc2221; kabar

Barone’s absolutely right, IMHO.

Union rallies need to be met with large counter-rallies.

And expecting the House leaders to represent Tea Party interests is a dead-end. If they had an interest in doing so, they would have done it already, and they would’ve treated Conservatives with respect, instead of sliming them behind their backs.

We are on the path to Denny Hastert/George “Compassionate Conservative”Bush-aimlessness here. We all know how that ended.


27 posted on 04/02/2011 9:50:15 AM PDT by Qbert ("I seem to smell the stench of appeasement in the air" - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Twotone

Oh we’re here. We’re just working and having our lives, watching, thinking, observing — keeping our powder dry. Do not ever think we are gone.

We don’t yell and scream, sleep in government buildings, break windows and poop in public gardens, so you don’t see us.


28 posted on 04/02/2011 9:50:15 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Twotone
Of course you are correct about conservatives and Republicans aggressively publishing their case as much as humanly possible.

Sadly, there are a group of people that are easy to fool all the time, Lenin's "useful idiots".

Sorry to hear about your mom.

29 posted on 04/02/2011 10:00:10 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: ex-snook

Note that there were 8.7 million government workers in 1960, now there are 22.5 million. Our population has not almost tripled over the past 50 years. Something accounts for this rapid, disproportionate expansion of government. It is the welfare state.


30 posted on 04/02/2011 10:02:27 AM PDT by kabar
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To: bwc2221

Ding! Ding! Ding!

We have a winner, folks!


31 posted on 04/02/2011 10:03:54 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: kabar; ex-snook
Your post actually supports ex-snook's point. Laying off government workers is simply addressing a symptom while allowing the disease to grow--while simultaneously alienating people.

So many work for the government because it's the rational choice, given conditions. The reasons for that are the key to changing it.

32 posted on 04/02/2011 10:04:34 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: bwc2221

NRO=National RINO Online

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Sadly true. How the mighty have fallen.


33 posted on 04/02/2011 10:06:52 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans - Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: Qbert
Union rallies need to be met with large counter-rallies.

The huge amounts of money the unions have make it difficult for the tea parties to compete. As someone who has been involved with the tea party movement for the past two years and attended dozens of rallies, we need to cut down on the number of demonstrations and concentrate on fewer, but bigger demonstrations.

The unions bus people in, manufacture signs, and pay people to demonstrate. The folks in the Tea Party movement don't have the same level of resources and many work or have family obligations.

Are you personally involved in the Tea Party movement?

34 posted on 04/02/2011 10:07:14 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Twotone
Our side, the silent majority, has a troubling habit of only waking up when they are backed into a corner and threatened with total destruction of the country as they know it. Then they wake up, win a skirmish or two and go back to sleep as soon as the pressure is off. I think many in the tea party felt the war was won in November and have gone back to sleep.
35 posted on 04/02/2011 10:08:50 AM PDT by apillar
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To: Twotone

Some fifteen years ago or so Democrats were terrified about a government shut-down. Now they’re drooling over one. What’s advantage is there now that didn’t exist in Clinton’s first term?


36 posted on 04/02/2011 10:09:08 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: bray
We are in a struggle to the death of either communism or America.

Correct. You are right on Bray. We see and hear the same familiar terminology and over the top rhetoric used by the Marxist-Leninists over the decades rising again in Wisconsin and elsewhere. I do believe that they have chosen this moment as "their time" to ascend.

Read Dr. Kengor's "Dupes", well documented, outstanding resource tracing their techniques since the 1917 Russian Revolution through today backed by research on newly declassified Russian documents.

Not enough people take this seriously, this is indeed a fight to the death of our nation as originally founded.

37 posted on 04/02/2011 10:18:21 AM PDT by brushcop
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To: Starboard

I agree- the 9/12/09 event in Washington DC was incredible. Maybe another before the election, with lots of notice so people can make travel plans. Locally, tea parties have flourished, but they often are competing. I got three emails about events for April 15 at three different locations. The best thing they did in the last election was email information on judges. We almost succeeded in getting three voted out. I think the town hall phase has ended for now and most are going about their business but remaining focused on what is happening in government for the next election.


38 posted on 04/02/2011 10:20:24 AM PDT by Fu-fu2
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To: Gondring
Your post actually supports ex-snook's point. Laying off government workers is simply addressing a symptom while allowing the disease to grow--while simultaneously alienating people.

Really? The states must balance their budgets. Half of their costs are personnel costs, which include people who work as well as those who are retired. The states are in dire financial straits. They must make cuts. I view the bloated public sector rolls and benefits as one of the main causes to their fiscal problems, not the symptom. They cannot afford the promises they have made.

So what is your solution? Increase taxes so that the states don't have to lay off people and not alienate the voter?

So many work for the government because it's the rational choice, given conditions. The reasons for that are the key to changing it.

Fewer goverment jobs will also be a way of changing the "rational choice." Yes, we can lower benefits and salaries, but the problem is also a function of numbers. We have 22.5 million government workers now compared to 8.5 million 50 years ago.

And it must be noted that we have a here and now problem. The states are faced with huge deficits to close this year and next. How would you do it this year and next if you don't lay off people? And if you try to cut future benefits and salaries, you will run into the same problems that Walker and Kasich are experiencing now. Public sector unions will fight any reductions.

39 posted on 04/02/2011 10:21:02 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Twotone
RIPVANTPARTY

TEA WAGON
40 posted on 04/02/2011 10:24:02 AM PDT by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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