Give me 48 hours, I'll track down yer Senator ...
Posted on 02/17/2011 1:47:14 PM PST by Daisyjane69
Well, IANAL, but I think even a simple bill addressing only the collective bargaining issue would require a 3/5 quorum. (Pinging some attorney FRiends in case they want to weigh in.)
IMHO, we should just let this play out. The Dems have to return eventually. When they do, they'll be forced to debate and vote. Anything Republicans do to alter the bill to shove it through the Senate makes them look desperate, sneaky, or vindictive.Wisconsin Constitution
Article VIII
Vote on fiscal bills; quorum.
SECTION 8.
On the passage in either house of the legislature of any law which imposes, continues or renews a tax, or creates a debt or charge, or makes, continues or renews an appropriation of public or trust money, or releases, discharges or commutes a claim or demand of the state, the question shall be taken by yeas and nays, which shall be duly entered on the journal; and three/fifths of all the members elected to such house shall in all such cases be required to constitute a quorum therein.
Meant to copy you on #341. Apologies.
Tex
Yes, holding anyone against their will is kidnapping. Only a LEO can detain the Dems.
That would be “must see TV.”
I think "claim or demand" relates to money owed to the state.
I still would like to see the bill passed anyway, and the gov impounding the union dues money until such point as the thing is sorted out.
They went to Ardmore OK as well. the Texas Rangers went to get them and bring them back..
Typical Dems COWARDS the whole lot of em.
Yep I said let OK keep em. But it seems OK didn’t want em and sent them back.
It doesn’t matter if they run now Texas has enough Republicans to have a quroum < sp > even if the Dems don’t show up.
Geeeez- I didn’t know that Fred Risser was even still stealing oxygen.
Unless this is the offspring of the Fred Risser that my Dad knew.
Still, an apple doesn’t fall far from the tree, especially in Wisconsin.
Could be. It's my understanding that public employees are required to join a union and dues are automatically deducted from their paychecks. If that's correct, wouldn't eliminating that requirement and automatic deduction of dues be releasing a claim/demand of the state on their paychecks?
It could be argued that way (and would be argued in court). Meanwhile, the gov could hold the money in escrow (which would avoid the "releasing a claim/demand of the state" issue).
The legislature could also pass "right to work" laws covering the whole state, which would not be appropriations bills and would only need majority quorum.
Geeeez- I didn’t know that Fred Risser was even still stealing oxygen.
Unless this is the offspring of the Fred Risser that my Dad knew.
Still, an apple doesn’t fall far from the tree, especially in Wisconsin.
what are the quorum rules. If no democrat is there to raise the issue of quorum then quorum should be assumend.
Follow the Pelosi precedent, and "deem" a quorum present.
I’m guessing that they have been using their state credit cards. If that is the case, then they should be locked up for a few years.
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