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To: supremedoctrine

From o’s Cairo speech:

“...I am convinced that in order to move forward, we must say openly the things we hold in our hearts, and that too often are said only behind closed doors. There must be a sustained effort to listen to each other; to learn from each other; to respect one another; and to seek common ground. As the Holy Koran tells us, *** ‘Be conscious of God and speak always the truth.’”
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He used the K book 33:70 completely out of context for western ears. For MUSLIM ears,:
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If the hypocrites and those in whose hearts is a disease and the agitators in the city do not desist, We shall most certainly set you over them, then they shall not be your neighbors in it but for a little while;

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Cursed: wherever they are found they shall be seized and murdered, a (horrible) murdering.

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(Such has been) the course of Allah with respect to those who have gone before; and you shall not find any change in the course of Allah.

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Men ask you about the hour; say: The knowledge of it is only with Allah, and what will make you comprehend that the : hour may be nigh.

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Surely Allah has cursed the unbelievers and has prepared for them a burning fire,

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To abide therein for a long time; they shall not find a protector or a helper.

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On the day when their faces shall be turned back into the fire, they shall say: O would that we had obeyed Allah and obeyed the Messenger!

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And they shall say: O our Lord! surely we obeyed our leaders and our great men, so they led us astray from the path;

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O our Lord! give them a double punishment and curse them with a great curse.

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O you who believe! be not like those who spoke evil things of Musa, but Allah cleared him of what they said, and he was worthy of regard with Allah.

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O you who believe! be careful of(your duty to) Allah and ***speak the right word,

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He will put your deeds into a right state for you, and forgive you your faults; and whoever obeys Allah and His Messenger, he indeed achieves a mighty success.

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Surely We offered the trust to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, but they refused to be unfaithful to it and feared from it, and man has turned unfaithful to it; surely he is unjust, ignorant;

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So Allah will chastise the hypocritical men and the hypocritical women and the polytheistic men and the polytheistic women, and Allah will turn (mercifully) to the believers, and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
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I urge you to pay attention to what the above chapter 33 in the Koran actually says, because Obama knows it well.

It means that the hour is quickly approaching wherein non-believers shall be defeated and dominated by “believers” in the countries and cities where they live. This has always been Allah’s way, and nothing has changed. Those who do not submit will be murdered in horrible ways. (Some translations refer to it as slaughter.)
Cities and countrysides will burn and there will be nowhere to run and nowhere to hide. Starting forest fires and brush fires is as much a part of the islamic warfare manual, as is blowing up buildings and people. They are building mosques in cities and small towns all over the country in numbers that belie the statistics we are being fed as to what their actual numbers are. We now have credible threats against our banking abd financial intitutions,
o has gone as far as he can destroying our foundations from within the government. Now it’s time for plan b.
If anyone who didn’t convert by choice initially tries to convert after being captured, their punishment will be worse than anything imaginable.
In 33:69, Musa is Moses. In other words, Obama is the Moses of our time, and anyone who speaks ill of him is a liar, so do not speak ill of the ONE.
We have already seen that play out on a small scale. It will get worse.
Anyone who does not accept the offer to convert and submit to islam is unjust and ignorant, worthy of great punishment.
It is the way of islam to make the offer to convert three times. Obama has given two major speeches in islamic countries wherein he declared The US an islamic country. After his visit to Turkey, Turkey went hardline. The next speech will be here on American soil. He even danced around it during his state of the union speech. So far, much of what he has tried to do has been almost miraculously thwarted. But there are wheels within wheels.
This is a very real vision the muslims have. We think it cannot happen here, but it doesn’t matter what WE think. THEY believe it and will do whatever it takes to make it happen. The proverbial barbarians are already inside the gates...and he is importing more as we speak.
Forewarned is forearmed.


159 posted on 02/01/2011 9:21:35 AM PST by MestaMachine (Note: I never capitalize anything I don't respect. Like obama and/or islam.)
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To: MestaMachine

Unbelievable! By choosing those few words out of that abhorent passage, Obama was giving his approval to the entire passage. Imagine if George Bush had made a speech in Israel using these words from the Holy Bible:

‘God promised he would provide you “a land flowing with milk and honey”’

Just think of the reaction of the islamic world when it was revealed that this was the context of the Bible passage:

Exodus 3:17-20

3:17 And I have said, I will bring you up out of the affliction of Egypt unto the land of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, unto a land flowing with milk and honey.

3:18 And they shall hearken to thy voice: and thou shalt come, thou and the elders of Israel, unto the king of Egypt, and ye shall say unto him, The LORD God of the Hebrews hath met with us: and now let us go, we beseech thee, three days’ journey into the wilderness, that we may sacrifice to the LORD our God.

3:19 And I am sure that the king of Egypt will not let you go, no, not by a mighty hand.

3:20 And I will stretch out my hand, and smite Egypt with all my wonders which I will do in the midst thereof: and after that he will let you go.


164 posted on 02/01/2011 10:17:51 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: MestaMachine

I don’t like this five pillars bit he’s always using.

It gives me the creeps every time.

I read that in his most recent speech, there were actually SIX pillars.

Innovation, Education, Information, Infrastructure and Deficit Reduction are the first five.

The sixth is Government Reform.

“For those interested, the ‘Five Pillars of Islam’ are Shahada (accepting Muhammad as God’s messenger), Salat (praying 5 times per day), Sawm (the 3 ritual fasting periods), Zakat (being charitable and responsible), and the Hajj (a pilgrimage to Mecca during the month known as Dhu al-Hijjah). It should be noted that while not wholly accepted by all Muslims, the more fundamentalists believe in a Sixth Pillar, that of Jihad, ‘The Struggle’. A few sects believe in ‘Seven Pillars’ which adds as the first pillar, Walayah, the Pillar of Submission to God and his prophets.”-—Obama: Five Pillars of ‘Change’ or ‘Islam’?: http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=8146

Government Reform-——jihad?

The jihadists in Egypt and all over the world are clamoring for “government reform”.

Did Obama wake them all up?

I’m not liking this.


167 posted on 02/01/2011 11:11:20 AM PST by Califreak (November 2008 proved that Idiocracy isn't just a movie anymore)
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