Posted on 10/18/2010 9:10:24 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
I have come to believe that Libertarians are worthless. Before them, a crop of wonderful, small government candidates sit and will likely win–scores of points of optimism in a political sky that has been bleak and black. To coin a word from the opposition, there’s Hope.
Now, most of us watching this election realize that the exhausting work over the last two years has hardly begun. Once this new crop become part of the system, they’ll have to be watched and held accountable.
The most optimistic change, then, hasn’t really been these candidates. It’s been the heart of the American people. Citizens have decided that they’ve sat on their duffs long enough. It’s time to get involved. It’s time to stay involved.
The candidates aren’t perfect. No politicians are perfect. Hells bells. They’re human and mere vessels for the expression of the voters’ will.
So, I read Doug Mataconis’ piece about why Libertarians are still disenchanted even with the best electoral hope in a generation presents itself. I feel absolute disgust.
Kvetching about the social issues of a Christine O’Donnell while ignoring the economic liberties that Mike Castle would have assuredly stripped had he had his way makes no sense. How on earth can a true Libertarian even worry about such irrelevance?
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I don’t want sex education in our schools. Not paying for that is socialism?
Spell "answer" right.
Jefferson wrote the sodomy laws for his State? Or did the Legislature? Thomas didn't advocate for giving the FedGov that power...
Gee... I wonder why? (/sarc)
In a more libertarian society, there would be more private schools and more options for educating my kids.
I agree. Some tread the line.
What a crock. There are plenty of options for educating our children right now, in the society that you seem to think isn't libertarian enough.
There's nothing in the government that is preventing private schools from starting up. If there isn't the demand for them, sure, there won't be so many. But demand isn't going to increase under a more libertarian system.
And homeschooling is legal in all 50 states. And for those states which have restrictive homeschooling regulations, there are ways around that so that any parent who really wants to can homeschool. Nobody can say that they can't. Where there's a will, there's a way.
So you believe that the Founders backed nanny states? Because I have already posted to you in Post 324 that at the founding of our country and until the 70's there were state laws against sodomy.
The Founding Fathers backed moral absolutes and sodomy laws. If you disagree with them then that means you are trying to create something different than what they believed and created.
Really? :-/
I already addressed the other guy about that.
I want the States to have their rights that they had according to the Constitution, and be allowed to pass laws against homosexual acts, as they had, as DJMacWoW has explained, until the 1970s and thereabouts.
There’s a link for you to educate yourself on the matter, it was posted above.
Thos Jefferson voiced a personal opinion about the sodomy laws in Virginia, his approval; don’t know if he wrote it or not. He did want the punishment amended from death to mere castration and banishment from the state, enlightened gentleman that he was.
You wouldn't be able to vote, Obama/Sharpton/Ellison wouldn't be electable, Senators would be appointed by their State legislatures, I could own all the guns I could afford, there would be no Federal income tax, there would be no SSI or Medicare, and if you disagree with them than that means you are trying to create something different than what they believed and created.
Yeah, sure. Everyone has any right to engage in any behavior at all. I really doubt you feel that way. There is a line between the kinds of behavior a person will tolerate and you draw yours in a different place. You are willing to accept a certain amount of mental disorder in our military and most normal rational people are not. Why not be honest about it?
And what’s wrong with that?
You list those as if there's a problem with them. You can't be serious????
Sodomy laws have been in all countries, including ours, since the beginning of man. The states, meaning the people, have the right to stop public deviancy.
Please try to stick to the subject, states rights, and not redirect the debate as you are prone to do. Address what I post.
FR has been through a couple of different ui changes. The ui you’re looking at now required a new registration, and our member dates reflect that new registration.
You might want to get your facts straight before calling out others.
Where is this in the Constitution? Article and section please.
Obama/Sharpton/Ellison wouldn't be electable,
Putting aside any questions about where Obama was born, where does the Constitution indicate that these men are non electable? Article and section please.
Of course he isn't. He is trying to redirect the debate so he doesn't have to answer that the Founders were for state sodomy laws. If you can't refute it, redirect.
History of Sodomy Laws in Virginia
In 1777, Thomas Jefferson and others worked on a proposed new criminal code for Virginia in anticipation of the success of the American Revolution. The proposed new sodomy law would have eliminated the death penalty and replaced it with castration for males and the boring of a hole through the nose of a woman. The proposal did not become law, but clearly showed that women were subject to prosecution under current legal thinking
However, we'd have to cut government and you people aren't willing to do that. You'd lose control over your favorite causus belli...
Way to ignore the racism and servile status of women inherent in the Founders original setup though. Takes talent to cavalierly toss that aside.
I wasn’t the one that brought up gays to being with. This is your sides red herring.
Or was it only White, Male, Land-owners?
In the Founders time, those men listed would be someones PROPERTY and ineligible to hold office.
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