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To: GOPsterinMA
Hilly will pass her resignation in at 12:01 am on 11/03. 2012 will officially start.

Now how will the blacks react:
Admit Soetoro was a failure or see him getting pushed out?

If you haven't already guessed, let someone who's from that community give you the 4-1-1.

No matter WHAT the official storyline is, black Dems will maintain to their dying breath that the Clintons pushed Obama out of the way.

Hillary can only succeed by honestly challenging Obama in the Democrat primary, and beating him for the nomination. For that to happen, someone's going to have to prop up Barry until then. I don't think he's gonna make it on his own.

No matter what calculus you use to look at the 2012 scenario for Democrats, it's pretty horrifying. What they're really going to need is a conservative, who's willing to roll back the worst of that party's abuses. I don't see any such animal in their party, and I highly doubt that one even exists.

Even if they were to find one, would their base vote for him/her? I don't think so.

Bottom line...they're screwed. They may as well face that ugly fact now, and prepare for the Great Reckoning. Being a Democrat from 2010 onward, is going to be a whole new ballgame. The smart ones will sever every radical connection they have, and throw out every vestige of the liberal/progressive agenda they've harbored, because it's all become political poison in America.

43 posted on 10/17/2010 6:25:03 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Wow! I sure hope you’re right! I just LOVE reading your post! :-)


45 posted on 10/17/2010 6:28:57 PM PDT by luv2ski
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To: Windflier
We thought Clinton was dead meat after 1994. He beat the snot out of us the next two elections. Each electoral cycle is different. Even Reagan couldn't put two good ones together in a row.

If the Clintons are seen as chasing Obama, they are finished. Obama would have to graciously leave and endorse them for party unity. I don't see that happening. Hillary's shot was last time. She is old news, not a rising star.

46 posted on 10/17/2010 6:29:13 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: Windflier

“What they’re really going to need is a conservative, who’s willing to roll back the worst of that party’s abuses. I don’t see any such animal in their party, and I highly doubt that one even exists.”

Could they bring Lieberman back in from the cold, and fake it with him? Or is he too old?


68 posted on 10/17/2010 7:51:14 PM PDT by Psalm 144
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To: Windflier
Thank you for the analysis! I hope your right, as the Rats need to be driven from the political landscape - forever.

Being a Democrat from 2010 onward, is going to be a whole new ballgame. I hope the new ballgame is akin to the "Christians vs. Lions" matinees they used to have at the Colosseum.

As far as Hilly goes, it's 2012 or bust for her. If a large constituency of the Rats, such as the black voter shuns them, then she'll do worse than either McGovern or Mondale. Personally, I like the sound of that.

70 posted on 10/17/2010 8:01:11 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Support and vote for Sean Bielat (MA-4)! MA-4 is Barney Frank's district.)
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To: Windflier

See my previous for what I think might happen. I am stunned at how different our predictions are. I think his lack of documentation for state party eligibility to run might really hurt him here, and might be an additional reason (besides a sure shellacking) for Obama not to run at all.

I think Hillary is a formidable enemy because she is so experienced at knowing how to tack to the center, and she has SO MUCH SPACE betwen where Barack took this country and the Actual Political Center that she needn’t even approach it. She knows how to control the mainstream news cycle, which I hope can now be overcome with all the other sources of info...

Do you really think there will be an outcry that she stole anything, when he has done so much bad for us all, black, white, blue, and striped?

My fear is of the male Repub leaders who are scared to take her on, if she is the nominee. We would be so better off if he was our opponent, it’s not funny.

(I totally get you on him needing to be propped up - check out the photo of him today in the back of the limo looking like he is holding an imaginary, comforting, little crack pipe...)


85 posted on 10/17/2010 9:22:10 PM PDT by Yaelle ( I donated double. We need FR running smoothly this fall. Join me.)
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