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Lawmaker: Severed head of investigator in Hartley case delivered to Mexican military
The Monitor ^

Posted on 10/12/2010 1:28:50 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K

The severed head of a Mexican investigator involved in the Falcon Reservoir case was delivered to the Mexican army today, according to state Rep. Aaron Peña, D-Edinburg.

Peña reported via Twitter that he had confirmed the information with Zapata County Sheriff Sigifredo Gonzalez, whose office is heading the U.S. investigation into the Sept. 30 disappearance of David Michael Hartley.

The 30-year-old McAllen man is widely believed dead after what his wife, Tiffany Young-Hartley, has described as an attack by cartel "pirates" on the Mexican side of the binational waterway.

(Excerpt) Read more at themonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; bushlegacy; falconlake; hartley; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; karlrove; mexico; mexicostylejustice; wod
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To: La Lydia

From the article:
The spokesman offered no basis for that assurance, however, and said Mexican officials need Young-Hartley to meet with them and file a complaint in the city of Miguel Aleman.
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Oh, yeah, I’m sure she’ll be right there. Are these people eating lead paint chips?


61 posted on 10/12/2010 3:26:26 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: DirtyHarryY2K
I am wondering why they killed this man in the first place. Surely not to rob him, how much cash do you carry while you are out ski mobiling around a lake? Had they gone ashore? Did he witness something?
62 posted on 10/12/2010 3:27:12 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: blarney
Actually, no, you don't, not everyone. Having been mugged once, I can tell you that getting away alive takes strong precedence over identifying the perps. For the life of me, I couldn't offer the police many details, not enough to help. Some people can--I couldn't. Maybe this woman couldn't either.
63 posted on 10/12/2010 3:28:04 PM PDT by MizSterious ("Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK)
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To: panthermom

“I thought you were innocent until proven guilty? When did they change it?”

When it involves pandering to MEXICO, that’s when. Hey, it’s just ANOTHER dead American, no biggie!


64 posted on 10/12/2010 3:29:16 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: MizSterious

Hey, that just makes too much sense. We can’t have any of that here. If it’s not “hinky” it’s not right. “Hinky” is where it’s at.


65 posted on 10/12/2010 3:29:35 PM PDT by bcsco (Karl Rove, from Magnificent Bastard to Malignant Bastard in one day...)
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To: Ditter

“I am wondering why they killed this man in the first place”

Because they CAN. Because useful idiots claiming to be conservatives ALWAYS make excuses for Mexican crime.


66 posted on 10/12/2010 3:31:00 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

I am not making excuse for them but their usual MO is to go for the money. I know they are savages and killing a human is nothing to them but I still don’t get it. Was it a drug deal gone bad?


67 posted on 10/12/2010 3:35:32 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: blarney

Been fired upon much? Your deduction is she could have seen who was shooting at her.

My deduction: They were attacked by pirates associated with the drug cartels, which are powerful enough and brutal enough that they kill and intimidate their entire government and police force. Do you think they use pellet guns? I deduct they had high powered weapons, probably semi automatic or full auto. My 13 yr. old hunts with a 7 mag. that has a range of 500 yds. Could you get a good look at someone @ 500yds, even if they weren’t shooting at you?


68 posted on 10/12/2010 3:35:57 PM PDT by panthermom
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To: Ditter

Fired on by pirates. Why? Well, I can think of one thing; he and his wife were riding some valuable jet skiis. Just think what some cartel pirates could do with those on the Rio Grande...


69 posted on 10/12/2010 3:39:36 PM PDT by bcsco (Karl Rove, from Magnificent Bastard to Malignant Bastard in one day...)
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To: sockmonkey
That is how the law works in Mexico, although Calderon is trying to change it. If you are the victim of a crime, or a witness, in a case like this where there is no body, you have to go to the Mexican equivalent of a police station and file a formal denuncia in order for the criminal process to begin.
70 posted on 10/12/2010 3:40:14 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Ditter

Pure intimidation....letting everyone know who owns the area.


71 posted on 10/12/2010 3:42:09 PM PDT by panthermom
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To: daniel boob

Nuclear?

Man, I’m all for wiping them out but Nuclear?

Dr.Strangelove, is that you?


72 posted on 10/12/2010 3:42:57 PM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: panthermom
"Could you get a good look at someone @ 500yds, even if they weren’t shooting at you?"

Though the distance involved in this case was somewhat less:
"They were within the length of my Jet Ski of me, which is about 10 feet." Tiffany Hartley, on the Today show
73 posted on 10/12/2010 4:06:16 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: bcsco

Nope just jerks who want to get all up in arms cuz someone has a differing opinion. Sorry you don’t know squat and have come to a conclusion, other people will use common sense and not do that until there is something conclusive to come to.


74 posted on 10/12/2010 4:07:15 PM PDT by blarney
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To: bcsco

Everyone gets benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. You go ahead getting your excercise jumping to conclusions and trying to run others down.


75 posted on 10/12/2010 4:08:41 PM PDT by blarney
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To: panthermom

Yup I have.
She was able to count people and number of boats that were chasing her too. ooooops guess you missed that part. LOL.

NO way did they shoot someone in the head on a jetski from a boat out on the lake being 500yds away. Please speak of thigs you now. Anyone with a lick of knowledge of guns will tell you this.


76 posted on 10/12/2010 4:11:28 PM PDT by blarney
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To: panthermom

They were within a few feet of eachother. Let me know how hard it is to know what someone looks like when you are that close while having enough time to count people too.

These are the things that makes the story hinky and why I will wait until there is something that shows if she had something to do with it or Mexicans, or just jerks from our country.

Mexico doesn’t own the population of bad people or jerks, shoot some of the folks here on fr fit into those category’s.


77 posted on 10/12/2010 4:15:08 PM PDT by blarney
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To: Doogle

Hillary hell, Send the Messiah to work things out.

Lots of folks would like his head on a platter


78 posted on 10/12/2010 4:16:27 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Greetings Jacques. The revolution is coming)
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To: blarney; bcsco

“Everyone gets benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. You go ahead getting your excercise jumping to conclusions and trying to run others down.”

Oh, stop. You are the one in this conversation who has jumped to conclusions, THAT is what is annoying. We are using the facts as presented. You’re entitled to your own opinion, but not your own ‘facts’. And you’re the only one ‘running’ anyone down. bcsco is a gentleman, he doesn’t use that tactic. I’m not so kind. If you start it, you’ll get the same back.

As Terry Anderson used to say, ‘You get all that you give’.
We could have ALL learned something from him.

http://theterryandersonshow.com/

“IF YOU AIN’T MAD, YOU AIN’T PAYING ATTENTION!”


79 posted on 10/12/2010 4:29:06 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: blarney; bcsco; All

“Mexico doesn’t own the population of bad people or jerks, shoot some of the folks here on fr fit into those category’s.”

Ah, THERE it is! It ALWAYS comes out. Mexico first! USA BAD! Obama/McCain is missing a useful idiot.

Look! Mexicans have killed more US Citizens in the same time period on OUR soil as have been killed on 9/11, in the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan. Parts of our nation, all over this country, are OFF limits to US citizens because armed Mexican cartels control them! We have abandoned the rule of law and protection of our sovereign border to appease this
pissy little, corrupt crap hole.

Now! Sure we have criminals...we’re HUMAN, too! But we don’t EXPORT ours to terrorize and destroy our neighbors! Tell me HOW MANY Mexicans have died at the hands of US citizens in recent years(and I don’t mean gang banging jackpot babies, either!) THREE! I’ve looked every day for ten years. THREE. THAT is a valid comparison.

No one...NO ONE can give a valid excuse for pandering to Mexico and it’s unruly, socialistic, anarchy loving populace.


80 posted on 10/12/2010 4:39:51 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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