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‘Dramatically Poisonous’ Economy Heading to ‘Catastrophic’ Collapse, Says Acclaimed Economist
http://theintelhub.com/ ^ | 9-24-2010 | Activist Post

Posted on 09/25/2010 6:24:20 AM PDT by Whenifhow

.... a must-see interview on Democracy Now where he says a second, more catastrophic crisis is unavoidable because our economic model is "dramatically poisonous."

..."Greed is the dominant value today in the world and as long as that persists, we're done!" But he doesn't just mean done economically, he means done as a species.

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... "next crisis is coming, and it will be twice as much as this one (referring to financial collapse of 2008)." Only for this one, "there will not be enough money anymore -- so that will be it!" Even more frightening are his views that the ecosystem may be beyond critical tipping points. He says, "Some important scientists believe that it is definite, we are finished . . . I have not reached that point, but I believe we are close."

...In other words, the notion that infinite growth can persist in a finite biosphere is dead wrong. And we may already have reached a point of no return.

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The dominant value that is needed to sustain this new economy is, "No economic interest, under any circumstances, can be more important than LIFE in all its manifestations."

When the engineered collapse comes, we can bet that the corporate-government will offer up their "solutions." It's not good enough for the Human World Order simply to oppose tyranny; we must also present logical solutions. Manfred Max-Neef is offering a philosophy to re-humanize the economy. From the ashes of the collapse will come the opportunity to build a new economy based on human principles of valuing all life. Ultimately, he is hopeful because of the amazing human creativity and solidarity witnessed among the impoverished. We shall create our way out of the crisis, but it must take place in an entirely new economic model to be successful.

(Excerpt) Read more at theintelhub.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; crisis; economiccollapse; economy; greed; kookstuff; manfredmaxneef; maxneef; nutjob; survival
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Original article:

http://www.activistpost.com/2010/09/dramatically-poisonous-economy-heading.html

Video - transcript on the page

Chilean Economist Manfred Max-Neef: US Is Becoming an "Underdeveloping Nation"

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/9/22/chilean_economist_manfred_max_neef_us

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And economists know nothing about ecosystems. They don’t know nothing about thermodynamics, you know, nothing about biodiversity or anything. I mean, they are totally ignorant in that respect. And I don’t see what harm it would do, you know, to an economist to know that if the beasts would disappear, he would disappear as well, because there wouldn’t be food anymore. But he doesn’t know that, you know, that we depend absolutely from nature. But for these economists we have, nature is a subsystem of the economy. I mean, it’s absolutely crazy.

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But some believe, you know, and state that it’s definite: we are finished. We are finished. In a few more decades, I mean, there will be no humanity anymore. I don’t think we have reached that point of it, but I believe that we are pretty close to it. I’ll say that we already crossed one of the three rivers. And if you look at it and what is happening everywhere, I mean, it’s quite frightening how the amount of catastrophes are increasing all over the place, you know, in all manifestations—storms, earthquakes, you know, volcanoes erupting. I mean, the amount of events is growing dramatically. I mean, it’s really frightening. And we continue with the same.

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I mean, your country is the most dramatic example that you can find. I have gone as far as saying—and this is a chapter of a book of mine that is published next month in England, the title of which is Economics Unmasked. There is a chapter called "The United States, an Underdeveloping Nation," which is a new category. We have developed, underdeveloped and developing. Now you have underdeveloping. And your country is an example, in which the one percent of the Americans, you know, are doing better and better and better, and the 99 percent is going down, in all sorts of manifestations. People living in their cars now and sleeping in their cars, you know, parked in front of the house that used to be their house—thousands of people. Millions of people, you know, have lost everything. But the speculators that brought about the whole mess, oh, they are fantastically well off. No problem. No problem.

1 posted on 09/25/2010 6:24:24 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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Original article:

http://www.activistpost.com/2010/09/dramatically-poisonous-economy-heading.html

Video - transcript on the page

Chilean Economist Manfred Max-Neef: US Is Becoming an “Underdeveloping Nation”

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/9/22/chilean_economist_manfred_max_neef_us


2 posted on 09/25/2010 6:25:29 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

What tripe

“Greed is the dominant value in the world”
“The drive to procreate is the dominant drive in the world”
“There is nothing more terrifying than a momma bear protecting her young”

Everyone has these pronouncements about what is the numero uno drive in the world and lay them out with no backing.


3 posted on 09/25/2010 6:29:37 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys)
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To: Whenifhow

LOL! Well that was a lot of nuthin’.


4 posted on 09/25/2010 6:31:19 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Whenifhow

O boy I get to be first: WE ARE DOOMED!
Thank you Barrack Hussien Obama...


5 posted on 09/25/2010 6:31:24 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Whenifhow

In poverty, “you cannot be an idiot if you want to survive,” he quipped.


That is a BIG problem with our affluent, welfare-state culture: people are insultated from the consequences of their own stupidity. To me, it explains the rise of liberalism. You no longer need common sense to thrive. This probably did in the Romans too. They thought they could be irresponsible because they were too big & powerful to fail.


6 posted on 09/25/2010 6:31:24 AM PDT by rbg81 (When you see Obama, shout: "DO YOUR JOB!!")
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To: Whenifhow
These doomsayers have nothing better to do than spew crap. It's what they crave.

Don't they wish it were all true.

7 posted on 09/25/2010 6:31:54 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Whenifhow

YUP.


8 posted on 09/25/2010 6:32:00 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: yldstrk

After reading about half of this, I agree with you—pure tripe!


9 posted on 09/25/2010 6:32:47 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Whenifhow
Democracy Now is not propaganda central but its close..
Goodman is stone commie.. Tokyo Rose in updated reality..

Any that watch this program WANT to be indoctrinated..
-OR- monitor the current lies of the HIVE....

10 posted on 09/25/2010 6:32:53 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: unixfox

WRONG.


11 posted on 09/25/2010 6:33:18 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Whenifhow
"Greed is the dominant value today in the world and as long as that persists, we're done!"

I tend to discount the words of anyone who claims "greed" as a force in worsening economic conditions.

12 posted on 09/25/2010 6:36:05 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Whenifhow

>on Democracy Now<

Zottable on sight


13 posted on 09/25/2010 6:38:26 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Whenifhow

Although there are elements of truth in this analysis, I am not overly impressed. One statement in particular was: “From the ashes of the collapse will come the opportunity to build a new economy based on human principles of valuing all life.”

HUMAN principles should not be the foundation. Divine principles should. This is where human beings have always gone off track.


14 posted on 09/25/2010 6:38:59 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Whenifhow

Article is stragegically timed with the release of the sequel to Wall Street.

greed.

surrender your wealth, you greedy person.


15 posted on 09/25/2010 6:40:30 AM PDT by Texas resident (Outlaw fisherman)
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To: Whenifhow

What absolute nonsense.

This article is overflowing with its hidden agenda.


16 posted on 09/25/2010 6:41:10 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Rules will never work for radicals (liberals) because they seek chaos. And don't even know it.)
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To: yldstrk

Self interest is a natural dynamic of humanity. In the USA, we are allowed to work towards our own goals, not those of the collective. ‘swhy so many people want to come here.


17 posted on 09/25/2010 6:41:42 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Whenifhow

Amy Goodman? Democracy Now? What kind of Leftist cr@p is that on a FR?


18 posted on 09/25/2010 6:44:25 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Whenifhow

We are running out of space in almost infinite universe


19 posted on 09/25/2010 6:47:12 AM PDT by Flavius
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To: saganite

“LOL! Well that was a lot of nuthin’.”

I listened to half of that spew, then turned it off.

Good grief!


20 posted on 09/25/2010 6:51:24 AM PDT by sneakers ( DON'T get between me and the election booth!)
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