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1 posted on 08/01/2010 1:42:51 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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President Barack Obama warned US leaders not to use the divisive issue of illegal immigration as a way to gain power and name recognition, in an interview with CBS television released on Saturday.
 
Pot. Kettle. Black.
 
 

2 posted on 08/01/2010 1:45:49 AM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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Ya gotta love the chutzpah of this guy.

One only need consult the dictionary* for the meaning of the word "demagogue" to instantly realize that it fits Obama to the T.
That's when a cold chill goes up your spine...

* A political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument.

3 posted on 08/01/2010 1:59:19 AM PDT by csense
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Obama can KMA! He is president, not a damned king.


7 posted on 08/01/2010 2:27:45 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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...and said his administration wanted to work with Arizona on the issue.

Ya, like the mafia offering a business owner protection after their goons bust the place up.

8 posted on 08/01/2010 2:28:12 AM PDT by csense
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said his administration wanted to work with Arizona on the issue

Actions speak louder than words. His administration sued Arizona, and as far as I can tell, made no effort to negotiate or coordinate activities aimed at curtailing illegal immigration.

What Arizona is demagoging is federal enforcement policy.

10 posted on 08/01/2010 2:45:21 AM PDT by Cboldt
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Our first bi-polar president


11 posted on 08/01/2010 3:12:45 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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“said his administration wanted to work with Arizona on the issue.”
With? With as in partners? Or is it with as in king and subjects?


12 posted on 08/01/2010 3:27:35 AM PDT by wiggen (Government owned slave.)
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Shout it from the rooftops! Talk truth to power! Evil conquers when good men remain silent! Make injustice known! As for Obama -

FUBO

14 posted on 08/01/2010 3:39:41 AM PDT by Enterprise (As a disaster unfolds, a putz putts.)
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FOR THE RECORD

We know that Free Republic is not only an echo chamber for like-minded conservatives but a forum for the expression of conservative policies. Here they are expressed and here they are tested. We know that lurkers of all stripes can be found-or not found-embedded in virtually every thread. I think some of us Conservatives should set down our position with respect to Obama and his shameful demagoguery over immigration and his opportunistic and reckless abandonment of his obligation to protect the borders in plain view for those independents and Democrats of good will to see and judge.

First, it is Obama himself and no conservative Republican who is the demagogue on the issue of immigration. It is Obama who has the motive to cynically capitalize on an influx of Latinos whom Obama can predict with confidence will vote Democrat.

Second, it is Obama who needs to gin up his poll numbers by throwing red meat to his base. There can be no doubt that the action of the NAACP and other left-wing organizations have been coordinated probably through the office of the Chief of Staff of the president of the United States. These actions have been designed to set one race against another. They come coordinated with the lawsuit against Arizona. These actions have been cynically calculated to play the race card. It is cynical and it is racist and it is ignobly motivated for crass electoral advantage. It is the worst and cheapest kind of demagoguery which sells out the soul of the nation on its most sensitive issue over its whole history for partisan advantage at the polls. Obama clearly has motive and his office has given him the opportunity. He has shamefully abused his office.

Third, Obama has opportunity not only to exploit the situation by playing the race card, but, as president of the United States whose party controls Congress, he has the undisputed power to put assets in place along the border to stop the inflow of illegal immigrants. He will not. In fact, his administration has sent every signal imaginable not excluding his lawsuit against Arizona, to encourage the inflow of illegal immigrants and to hold out to them the hope of total amnesty. Despite murders along the border, despite huge jobless numbers for American citizens, despite hundreds of billions of dollars of costs to educate and medically treat illegal aliens, despite a tsunami of illegal drugs, Obama will not lift a finger to stop the flood. To the contrary, he tacitly encourages it.

Obama has the power and the opportunity to do good but he chooses to do evil.

Fourth, as a committed Marxist and leftist, Obama sees America not as the Shining City on the Hill which stands between the civilized world and the barbarians approaching the gate, but as the focus of evil which has retarded the global march of socialism. A basic tenet of Marxist/socialism is the destruction of the nationstate. By definition, a parce of land is not a nation which cannot control its borders. To the degree that America under Obama has countenanced uncontrolled borders, America loses sovereignty. Obama wants America ultimately to shed its role as protector of the weak and innocent and abandon any responsibility coming out of American exceptionalism. If America is a bulwark against socialism, Obama is content to let America die.

Fifth, to the degree that Obama can justify his refusal to see that the laws on immigration are faithfully executed by resort to identity politics-reverse racism-he undermines the rule of law and substitutes another kind of doctrine, a race based doctrine which is hateful and destructive of the American experience. But that process of destruction advances the cause of a committed Marxist as it undermines the Constitution and disparages the whole rule of law. We all are to be governed by executive whim and by identity politics.

These are the conclusions which I come to without much time to reflect. I'm sure more will come later and I am even more certain that other Freepers will have much to add. If you are a lurker, an independent, or a questioning Democrat, and you come across this thread why not come on board and say your piece? Maybe you agree with some of these conclusions, maybe you can change my mind.


15 posted on 08/01/2010 3:40:36 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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President Barack Obama warned US leaders not to use the divisive issue of illegal immigration as a way to gain power and name recognition

Warn all you want, you impotent little clown.

Your political reckoning is ahead.

16 posted on 08/01/2010 3:45:46 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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throw sleazy wetbacks out and 99% of the prob is solved.


19 posted on 08/01/2010 4:23:31 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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said his administration wanted to work with Arizona on the issue.

You LIE!

22 posted on 08/01/2010 4:50:34 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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Typical Leftist tactics: Define your opponent’s position as outside the bounds of acceptable debate. Alinsky would be proud.


24 posted on 08/01/2010 5:06:25 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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Note that the protesters at the Diamondbacks game had professionally made signs and some wore SEIU t-shirts. Tell me that Zero and Soros aren't behind that...

Zero is a backdoor demagogue, but then again, from what we hear, he's a backdoor man anyway.

25 posted on 08/01/2010 5:08:38 AM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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Remember when MaObama first took office?

His “supporters” condemned us for criticizing him and said; “Just give him some time to let his policies start to work!”

Well my FRiends, that is exactly our biggest problem!

27 posted on 08/01/2010 5:22:15 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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One or two very minor things were blocked, but the rest is left intact for us to enforce. The media keeps trying to claim that the whole thing was knocked down.

I guess the media is trying to set up a trap for illegals so they get caught and deported.

28 posted on 08/01/2010 5:42:48 AM PDT by McGavin999 (I'm sorry, your race card is overdrawn and no further charges can be accepted)
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I don’t think even his supporters take him seriously. They live in a lie and knowingly so while spouting off deliberately hypocritical language that really identifies what they do and what they are. At this point he’s not fooling anyone even though he continues on with this rhetoric. What else is he going to say and his actions give it all away.


30 posted on 08/01/2010 5:58:20 AM PDT by bushfamfan (United States of America: July 4, 1776-November 4, 2008)
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Don't 'demagogue' immigration says obama.

Yet HE demagogues race, religion, American Capitalism, citzenship and Superpower Status.

I've said it once, I'll say it again and again; remove this treasonous dog from office by any means necessary!

33 posted on 08/01/2010 6:48:58 AM PDT by STD (SoftTyranny Until He Cracks the Whip)
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Obama has thrown the promised national guard troops down the rabbit hole. They were suppose to arrive on the border today and now have been told to wait:

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/immigration/national-guard-troops-told-to-wait-to-go-to-border-07312010

Who is playing games here? Obama is.


35 posted on 08/01/2010 7:36:22 AM PDT by penelopesire (FOX NEWS TRIBAL PRINCESS)
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Is anybody else getting tired of this man "teaching" us?

As Rush says, this president is the least experienced person in ANY room he walks into!

To have this man reading from the teleprompter telling ME what how the world works is like listening to a 5 year old foreign policy expert. I see his face, I hit the remote button. This man IS NOT GOING TO TELL ME what he thinks ... I don't CARE what he thinks (or what the people who write his speeches think). Everything he says has an "expiration date" on it. (It will be televised on C-Span ... uh, unless it is done behind closed doors blocking the other party out). ALL CREDIBILITY is gone ... no matter what he says ... he is proving to mean the opposite.

Thank heavens for my remote button.

38 posted on 08/01/2010 8:28:02 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (http://www.thepatriotsflag.com - The Patriot's Flag)
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