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Woman's hospital memories contradict "birthers"
The Daily Republic ^ | May 15, 2010 | Ross Dolan

Posted on 05/14/2010 11:02:15 PM PDT by Smokeyblue

U.S. House candidate Chris Nelson earlier this week dismissed “birther” statements attributed to him and said he believes Barack Obama is a natural-born U.S. citizen and the legitimately elected president of the United States.

So does Eleanor Nordyke — and according to her, she should know.

Nordyke, 82, of Honolulu, Hawaii, says that on Aug. 4, 1961, she was in labor with her twin daughters Susan and Gretchen at Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital — the same place Barack Obama was being born. The hospital has since been renamed Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women and Children.

“Birthers” is the term given to those who believe Obama was not born in the United States and does not, therefore, meet a primary qualification for the presidency.

Nordyke, in a Friday telephone interview with The Daily Republic, said the birthers have consistently discounted her testimony. She is certain they are wrong.

(Excerpt) Read more at mitchellrepublic.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: article2section1; birthcertificate; certifigate; eligibility; hawaii; honolulu; ineligible; naturalborncitizen; nordyke; obama; usurper
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For what it's worth, new interview with Mrs. Nordyke.
1 posted on 05/14/2010 11:02:15 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Smokeyblue

I don’t see anything that she was witness to that contradicts anything. Did I miss something?


2 posted on 05/14/2010 11:04:56 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: Smokeyblue

Who was the attending physician? Was the father actually Barack Hussein Muhammed Obama, Sr.? If so, nothing else matters, because then Mr. Obama could not and cannot be a natural born citizen!


3 posted on 05/14/2010 11:05:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Don't care if he was born in a manger on July 4th! A "Natural Born" citizen requires two US parents!)
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She recalls that Obama’s birth notice was published several days before her daughters’ notice, even though Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was admitted to Kapiolani Hospital after Nordyke entered the hospital. Obama was born on a Friday, and the Nordyke twins were born on a Saturday, she said.

Nordyke’s late husband, Dr. Robert Nordyke, was an internal medicine specialist at Honolulu’s Straub Clinic.

“My daughters’ birth certificates were 10637 and 10638, and Obama’s was 10641, so his mother must have come in after I did,” Nordyke said, though she never met Obama’s mother.

Must have??? She doesn’t know for sure.


4 posted on 05/14/2010 11:06:17 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Smokeyblue

We will likely never know whom was the little one actually born to and given the birth cert number Barry is using. But someone has to keep looking ...


5 posted on 05/14/2010 11:08:43 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Smokeyblue

Lets say he was born in Hawaii. His father was a not born in the U.S. so he is not a natural born citizen.


6 posted on 05/14/2010 11:09:22 PM PDT by jarofants
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To: Smokeyblue
This is kind of a strange article, because while it says she was in the hospital at the same time Dunham was supposedly in the hospital, the article never quotes her as saying she saw Dunham or remembered her from the hospital. Maybe she has said that somewhere else, but at least in this article, there is no such statement made. So what, exactly, is the value of her testimony? Could be just bad writing on the part of the reporter.

Hawaii law prevents the release of full “long form” birth information to anyone but family members, Nordyke said, “so for the birthers to keep clamoring for it is ridiculous.”

Everyone realizes the BC can only be released to O himself. The question is, why doesn't "he" release it.

“Birthers” is the term given to those who believe Obama was not born in the United States

Actually, I suppose "birther" could refer to people who think its odd that he refuses to release his birth certificate or his college records or his passport records or in fact any of his paper trail. He is the man without a past; he is the man who never was. "Birthers" are apparently the only people in America who think thats strange.

"Journalist" is the term of art we use for people who think its embarrassing to ask what it is that O is hiding.

7 posted on 05/14/2010 11:12:50 PM PDT by marron
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To: Smokeyblue

You gotta love how, out of the blue, the author says that race seems important to the birthers, but was never an issue at Obama’s Punahou school. What the heck? Slurring anyone with concerns about Obama’s eligibility as racist and lifting Obama above such low-brow people all at the same time and with zero justification.
On a separate note, no matter where Obama was born, there are still questions about his eligibility (Indonesian adoption, Kenyan father, British citizenship, ‘81 Pakistan trip, etc.).


8 posted on 05/14/2010 11:13:29 PM PDT by nysuperdoodle
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To: Smokeyblue

It’s a re-hash of what she said before. Slobbery kisses. She doesn’t say she remembers baby 0thugga or his mother! She has no memory of them at the hospital or even any contemporaneous second or third hand stories. It’s a slimey puff piece and I swear she was coached as well.

It makes rock groupies look rational.


9 posted on 05/14/2010 11:13:35 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: Smokeyblue

Questions:
- How accurate is a memory of events multiple decades ago? Sometimes I forgot what I had for breakfast... or if I had breakfast.
- The lady mentions the birth announcement in the paper; did she see Obama, his mother, and/or his father while in the hospital?
If she did not actually see them, her testimony is ONLY hearsay.


10 posted on 05/14/2010 11:13:45 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: marron

She has never said she remembers them at the hospital. She’s just a willing, coached, prop piece.


11 posted on 05/14/2010 11:14:29 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: OneWingedShark

She mentions the birth announcement and weird dating connected with it because she was coached. There is no doubt about it.


12 posted on 05/14/2010 11:15:07 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: conservative cat

I didn’t either.


13 posted on 05/14/2010 11:18:12 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: Smokeyblue

yeah right your giving birth to twins and you hve time to pay attention to whats going on in he bed next to you, and thru all that you remmber the nams of those unimportant to you?


14 posted on 05/14/2010 11:18:15 PM PDT by KingNo155
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To: little jeremiah

>She mentions the birth announcement and weird dating connected with it because she was coached. There is no doubt about it.

I’m inclined to agree; why would she remember a birth-announcement from some unknown, about some random person, multiple decades later?

True, some people do have photographic and near-photographic memories, but they’re fairly rare & nothing has been said about it. {I assume that if she even claimed to have near-photographic memory it would be “highlighted, boldfaced, & underlined” in the article.}


15 posted on 05/14/2010 11:20:06 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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“Birthers” is the term given to those who believe Obama was not born in the United States and does not, therefore, meet a primary qualification for the presidency.

No. "Birther" referes to the lack of natural born citizen status for any reason whatsoever. All this talk about a birth certificate - even if it is true - takes the focus off the known, established fact that Obama's father was a British citizen through Kenya. That alone denies him natural born citizen status, period, end of discussion. Anything germaine on the birth certificate is just extras.

16 posted on 05/14/2010 11:20:58 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Smokeyblue

Grandma must have been “loaded”! Private school tuition and 3 week cruises in Tahiti et.al.


17 posted on 05/14/2010 11:21:22 PM PDT by Kahuna
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To: OneWingedShark

There was an almost identical “interview” with hear a year or more ago, some of it almost word for word. But this time the birth announcement stuff is trotted in. The handlers who coached her made her say that stuff because now “it’s out there”, it wasn’t out there say a year and a half or couple years ago. It was discussed on FR but not so much and not out in the ethers.

Let’s see her copy of the Honolulu papers with her babies’ birth announcements! Then we’ll talk!

She was reading a script.


18 posted on 05/14/2010 11:23:11 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: marron
"Journalist" is the term of art we use for people who think its embarrassing to ask what it is that O is hiding.

Journalist is just the commonly used word for propagandist.

19 posted on 05/14/2010 11:24:25 PM PDT by highlander_UW (First we take down the Democrats, then we clean the Augean stable that is the GOP.)
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To: Kahuna
Grandma must have been “loaded”!

Bank vice president.

20 posted on 05/14/2010 11:24:46 PM PDT by marron
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