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Are We Still an Ally of Israel? Who Knows? [Victor Davis Hanson]
National Review ^ | 4-19-10

Posted on 04/19/2010 4:56:22 PM PDT by SJackson

In a recent Gallup poll, 85 percent of Republicans and only 48 percent of Democrats supported Israel rather that the Palestinians. What to make of it?

The hard Left's multiculturalist furor at Israel has made enormous inroads into the Democratic party, as we see with the current "reset" policy of the Obama administration, while the old blue-blood, country-club Republicans who tsk-tsked Israel have almost vanished. Over the last 20 years the Left has reconstructed Israel from a bastion of the traditional liberal Jewish tradition into a Western, capitalist hegemonic oppressor, all of which shows the power of campus multculturalism when a tiny democratic country of 7 million can be reconfigured into a colonial power.

In some sense Obama's new policy, rather than the wishes of the Democratic Congress, reflects the new Democratic majority, even as it is at odds with the country at large (63 percent of the American people express support for Israel). More to the point, no alliance can long withstand such a marked divide, in which Republicans are overwhelmingly pro-Israel and Democrats quite clearly are not — that divide leads to something like the radical change of heart from Bush in 2008 to Obama in 2009.

Clearly Jewish-American voters are not factoring in Israel all that much in their political decisions and have little problem identifying with a party that has lots of problems with Israel — unless domestic politics have not caught up with rapidly changing attitudes in Washington. Stranger still, the Israeli liberal elite that dominates foreign policy and cultural life in Israel will be finding the U.S. government much more akin to the hostile feeling of Europe; its six-out-of-ten support in America remains mostly rank and file.

All of this, of course, is the stuff of parlor thinking and mercurial polls. The real problems won't arise until there is another shooting war in the Middle East, a flare-up with Iran, or another intifada, in which everything from American resupply to verbal support for an Israel in extremis will clarify things a great deal.


TOPICS: Editorial; Israel; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 04/19/2010 4:56:23 PM PDT by SJackson
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2 posted on 04/19/2010 4:57:15 PM PDT by SJackson (Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: SJackson; MestaMachine; justiceseeker93; Canedawg; sheik yerbouty; T.L.Sink; unkus; flat; ...

The American people are allies of Israel; one would have to surmise that the occupant of our White House, the Kapos on his staff, and members of Congress that aren’t.


3 posted on 04/19/2010 4:58:48 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: SJackson

WE are.

Our alleged president isn’t.


4 posted on 04/19/2010 4:59:42 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 452 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Yes, American people and some in Congress are allies of Israel.

The Rats and Kapos...not so much.


5 posted on 04/19/2010 5:00:00 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Paul Ryan/Greg Abbott in 2012.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Well , you certainly captured the reason for this thread.


6 posted on 04/19/2010 5:01:41 PM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I wouldn’t include most members of Congress in that.


7 posted on 04/19/2010 5:03:05 PM PDT by SJackson (Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: SJackson
In a recent Gallup poll, 85 percent of Republicans and only 48 percent of Democrats supported Israel rather that the Palestinians. What to make of it?

What to make of it?

One party is decidedly unserious in its approach to Middle East affairs. One party digs totalitarianism. One party is anti-semitic.

Guess which one...???

8 posted on 04/19/2010 5:03:32 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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We will always be an ally of Israel. It matters very little what Obama says.


9 posted on 04/19/2010 5:07:28 PM PDT by NoRedTape
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To: SJackson

No.

This muslim antisemitic fuhrer will not stop until the plans of the 1930s one are complete and Israel is pushed ito the sea.


10 posted on 04/19/2010 5:09:15 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Craven spirits wear their master's collars but real men would rather feed the battlefield's vultures)
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To: SJackson

Liberal American Jews won’t react until they find doors closed to them. Right now they depend on their wealth and connections to keep those doors open.Israel can go down if they can keep their own positions. But the situation in Europe suggests that they have to give up more than than their purse.


11 posted on 04/19/2010 5:09:34 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: SJackson

Congress is there to serve at the peoples will. If they allow Israel to be attacked, kick them out immediately. Same goes for the President. Maybe we should ask Israel if they want to become a State?


12 posted on 04/19/2010 5:24:04 PM PDT by RC2
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To: SJackson

It could be that on behalf of the Saudi lobby(remember that medallion as well as the bow) and the new administrations oppositional proclivities to past US policies) the administration may be angling toward, in a ME conflict, Israel being taken out by Iran/Syria, as Iran/Syria is taken out by the US and its Arab or NATO allies. Just thinking.


13 posted on 04/19/2010 5:36:46 PM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan eet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: SJackson
The short answer is NO! - and the short consequence bestowed upon on us by God via Ezekiel is “I will cut you into pieces!”
Next question?
14 posted on 04/19/2010 5:38:53 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: SJackson
The most diverse and multiculturalist Country I visited
in the early seventies was Yugoslavia.
I do believe too many in our Government wants to see
America in the same shape.
15 posted on 04/19/2010 5:45:39 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: SJackson
The abandonment of Israel at the hands of the “thugs in charge of the White House” is the fulfillment of 0bummer’s destiny to eliminate any mention of the USA in end times prophesy. Israel is left on her own against Islam. Oh, I forgot to mention the fact that fully 2/3rds (by both weight and volume) of the Holy Bible deals with God's love and plan for Abraham's children. 0bummer is simply ushering in the inevitable. I'm ready... are you?
16 posted on 04/19/2010 5:54:08 PM PDT by j_tull (I may make you feel, but I can't make you think.)
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To: SJackson

The MIC (muslim in chief) in the White House is no ally of Israel


17 posted on 04/19/2010 6:12:39 PM PDT by jesseam (Been there, done that)
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To: SJackson

We’re better off without American “support” right now. All that is is a lever to force more concessions for the Palis, who then spit on them. The piece process has claimed too many lives already. Its main proponent, America, must be stopped before we are forced to make piece some more.


18 posted on 04/19/2010 6:20:09 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 ( Two-state solution: A bad idea whose time has gone.)
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To: Eleutheria5

You’re right, do what you need to do. As I’ve noted on other threads, separate, establish borders. Abandon the territory in the West Bank that’s not strategic. Leave the barbarians on the other side, there’s no negotiating partner on the horizon for decades.


19 posted on 04/19/2010 6:24:54 PM PDT by SJackson (Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: SJackson
"Clearly Jewish-American voters are not factoring in Israel all that much in their political decisions "

The problem is that most American Jews are only peripherally Jewiish in any religious sense. FDR is their Moses, the New Deal is their Ten Commandments, and Hollywood is ther Promised Land.

20 posted on 04/19/2010 9:45:07 PM PDT by cookcounty ("When they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun," --"Brawls for Radicals" --by Barack Alinsky)
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