Posted on 03/22/2010 11:18:33 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
Your stats on “elective” abortions and those necessary are wrong as much as you and others do not want to hear it. If Stupak was duped...and if I was...it does not reduce his good intentions or lessen his having the courage of his convictions. I am giving him that which is more than you are doing with me. And I still have not insulted you.
The louse said he was going to not support the bill if it supplied funds for abortions.
It does.
He voted for it anyway.
It does, and will provide funds for abortions.
Good intentions? ‘Oh, don't judge me by the actual outcome of my actions, the outcome that as soon as I began my actions you all said was counterproductive to my stated goal, my intentions were good.’ Please.
We all knew that the Stupak amendment was a fig leaf. We told him it was. He said he would only support the bill if the language was preserved. It was stripped from the bill and he voted for it anyway.
His intentions were never honorable. His courage was always doubtful. His convictions were nowhere to be seen.
Again, he stipulated elective abortions. Fine, you do not believe he believes this. You do not believe the man has any convictions. Believe me when I say I do have convictions. Strong ones on this subject. After our day long conversation, I would hope you would at least believe that. We can disagree about Stupak. He voted for healthcare...I cannot defend him on that except like Rodriquez and Cuellar here in San Antonio, they truly believe this is the best for their country and their constituents were overwhelmingly for it..and they are the ones who will vote for them come time for them to be re elected. It is how politicians vote..the way it get them re elected. This is not my ..or your...first time at that rodeo.
“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” -George Orwell
...could not be more accurate in this case.
And no, I don't give you any benefit of the doubt after your “I don't understand” “I do understand” folly. I think you are going to say whatever you think you need to say to try to maintain the fiction that the Stupak amendment was ever anything but a fig leaf to attempt to make palatable what was unpalatable, and to give supposedly Pro-life Democrats like Stupak cover.
I don't buy that this was ever anything but what it was, a false flag, a fig leaf, a spoonful of sugar to help the medicine go down; but they didn't even supply that at the last second. I don't see where anybody with an IQ above room temperature would think that this ever was anything but what it was, an exercise in allowing Pro-life democrats to vote for a bill that provided federal funds for abortion while saying “I never did!”.
okay
No problem here.
Luckily, I suppose, for now the district in which I reside is pretty “safe” for a conservative candidate. I’m in the lower part of the Pennsylvania “T” where Republicans have a much easier time of it. Most people here are fiscally conservative as well as socially conservative. On another thread, a poster mentioned something Serpenthead said about PA. Philadelphia and Pittsburgh bracket an Alabama type area within the state of PA. Still, I have no illusions where Democrats are concerned. For better or for worse, I consider their party the equivalent of a malignant cancer and al-Queda.
Surely you jest. Liberty and Socialism can not coexist, they are mutually exclusive, if you don't understand that then, there is no explanation that would suffice.
Notice how well Islam and Christianity coexist in Iran, Saudi Arabia......
Ignorance and Vice
Samuel Adams "It is high Time for the people of this country to declare, whether they will be freemen or slaves? It is an important question which ought to be decided. It concerns us more that anything in this life. The Salvation of our souls is interested in this event. For wherever tyranny is established immorality of every kind comes in like a torrent. It is in the interest of tyrants to reduce the people to ignorance and vice. For they cannot live in a country where virtue and knowledge prevail. The religion and public liberty of a people are intimately connected; their interests are interwoven, they cannot subsist separately; therefore they rise and fall together. For this reason, it is always observable, that those who are combined to destroy the people's liberties, practice every art to poison their morals. How greatly then does it concern us, at all events, to put a stop to the progress of tyranny." --
MrB, like you, I know in Whom I have believed. I read all your posts when we meet on a thread.
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