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Kill the Bill, Invoke the 10th
texas.tenthamendmentcenter.com ^ | 3-21-10 | Brian Roberts

Posted on 03/21/2010 6:27:55 PM PDT by Pantera

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To: Plutarch
LOL. that's a good cartoon.

It reminded me of Einstein and one of his equations in his theory of General Relativity. It pertains to Space-Time, Gravity and Black Holes and a 'mistake' he made

He knew it was there even when he published it, as it was pointed out that the answer = ∞ (infinity). And in Physics 'infinity' just won't do. Einstein replied that this 'mistake made no difference as we'll never get near a Black Hole to see the actual results.

Years later modern Physicists tried to rework Einstein's equation to 'correct it', but they made it worse.
Their answer to the 'fix' was: = ∞, = ∞, = ∞, = ∞, etc, etc, etc.

it's pretty funny if you're into physics ;-)

21 posted on 03/22/2010 3:28:53 AM PDT by Condor51 (SAT CONG!)
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To: ForGod'sSake

John Adams, Daniel Webster, John Marshall, Joseph Story... All of them were disciples of Alexander Hamilton and his “national supreme monarchical” plan of centralized government. You might say Hamilton was a Marxist in training. Hamilton’s ideas were soundly defeated at the constitutional convention of 1789. Best read on it is John Taylor’s ‘New Views of the Constitution of the United States’ (1823)... Or you may read the journal of the minutes of the convention of 1789 (Library of Congress)

The General Welfare clause has been so tortured from its intent as to be unrecognizable... Same with the commerce clause. Regulation of commerce, as understood by those who designed it, meant to keep “regular” as in to make certain that the individual states did not prohibit commerce among the several through imposition of tariffs, etc. Providing for the General Welfare meant to provide for the common defense of the several states, to build roads, and to maintain the same standard of taxation across the several states... It had absolutely NOTHING to do with providing for the individual, or even a group of individuals; but only to look after those things that were a matter of public necessity for the federal government, so to ensure the “general welfare” of the INDIVIDUAL STATES!

Chief Justice John Marshall (judicial review) and Chief Justice Joseph Story (Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States) saw to it that the government gained the power to determine and establish its own limits, which is blatantly contrary to the intent of federalism and the plan of the Constitution. Their legal theories placed the Constitution in subservience to the federal government, rather than the Constitution acting as a check upon federal powers. The perversions and generational lies of Marshall, and later Story (his apprentice) have manipulated jurisprudence in favor of centralized control since the early 1800’s. Abraham Lincoln’s tyranny direct resulted from the 60 years of distortion and subtle subversion of the U.S. Constitution affected by the Supreme Court under both Chief Justices. No single man understood this more clearly than Senator John C. Calhoun of South Carolina.

Far from the Southern States being “rebels,” it was Lincoln and his Northern Army of butchers that were the traitors against the republic. The popular history fed to American children about the “great emancipator” is pure nonsense. He was an absolute tyrant forging a chain of unscrupulous acts of violence against the Constitution, and doing so by way of Alexander Hamilton’s notorious vision.

We are where we are today because of a long history of usurpation of power and instigation of intrigue that had its roots in the monarchical ideas of Hamilton, Adams, Webster, Marshall and Story... reaching its violent design in 1864... and finding another champion in 2008. It is a bitter irony that Barak Hussein Obama should be the heir of Lincoln’s infamous war on the Constitution.


22 posted on 03/22/2010 3:30:35 AM PDT by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !)
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To: Monorprise
They are illegal until “proven” legal.

The way it seems to work; right, wrong or indifferent is they are accepted until challenged. In the opinion of those stalwart black robed defenders of our freedoms, if a challenge has merit, the court may be inclined to issue an injunction. The many State challenges that are sure to come may have enough "merit" to put the brakes on this socialized lunacy, but with the current state of our judiciary, I wouldn't hold my breath. But still, we have got to light a fire under our State legislators to ensure they hear from us. I've not doubt many of the various States would like to reclaim their Constitutional powers, it's just that the impetus has not been there in the form of an uprising from We The People.

23 posted on 03/22/2010 8:24:55 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: Monorprise

Work on nullification simultaneously while fighting this in court.

If the court route works, nullification will be moot.
If the courts fail, the next step is already ready to be implemented.


24 posted on 03/22/2010 8:27:06 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Pantera

9th Amendment, too.


25 posted on 03/22/2010 8:31:14 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction (LOLcat sez: "ObamaCare: Do Not Want!")
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To: ForGod'sSake
I'm sure the insurance industry as a whole would like nothing better than to stick a soldering iron up odinga's, well....

Ah, the King Edward treatment. I can think of no one more deserving. Soros maybe.

26 posted on 03/22/2010 8:44:35 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Pantera
"Once states exhibit defiance it will not be long before the federal government shifts it’s focus to the states not the individuals. That’s when you will know that you are not being ignored anymore."
27 posted on 03/22/2010 9:03:55 AM PDT by caww
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To: TCH
Great post! As you point out, one of the reasons we're in such a pickle today is that government schools are doing little in the way of helping to turn out citizens proud of America who are willing to stand proudly for their country. We would likely agree their primary function is to educate but I would submit at least a very close second would be a responsibility to support and mirror the traditions, culture and values that led to America's exceptionalism. They of course don't in many cases, particularly in the metropolitan cess pools.

The indisious attack by our would-be masters on We The Sovereign American People has been unrelenting. Have we reached a tipping point yet? We are VERY close but I'm convinced it's not too late to turn back the feral monster. I suspect it will come with a large price tag. Are we willing to pay the price?

28 posted on 03/22/2010 9:04:21 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: Still Thinking
Ah, the King Edward treatment.

Har! Hey odinga, gotta light???

I can think of no one more deserving. Soros maybe.

Werksferme. Which reminds me, have you, or anyone else for that matter ever seen any information or research on what may have caused the "run" on the banking system in 2008 that presumably required the TARP fix? I have always suspected a soreass connection but have never looked into it.

29 posted on 03/22/2010 9:28:04 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: ForGod'sSake
Which reminds me, have you, or anyone else for that matter ever seen any information or research on what may have caused the "run" on the banking system in 2008 that presumably required the TARP fix? I have always suspected a soreass connection but have never looked into it.

No, not at this point. I'll be on the lookout and maybe do some searching though.

Actually, part of the reason behind the choice of method with Edward was that he was widely believed to be homosexual, so it was thought to be witty.

30 posted on 03/22/2010 9:34:47 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: MrB

It might be good to continue down the legislative nullification path anyway, as a message to Washington and so their next attempt is already pre-nullified in state law.


31 posted on 03/22/2010 9:36:20 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

Thanks.


32 posted on 03/22/2010 10:45:08 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: TCH

I believe the original intent of the Interstate Commerce Act was to “make regular” or regulate the systems of commerce between the states. I know I have read an early case about stock companies or such and different systems that evolved among the states and how Congress stepped forward to push forward one universal system. Ogden and other cases were an evolution of that, but it kept expanding beyond the original intent.

When I have time, I will go back into my archives and try to find it.


33 posted on 03/22/2010 11:33:06 AM PDT by marsh2
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