Posted on 03/21/2010 6:27:55 PM PDT by Pantera
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Virginia Lawmakers Say "No" To Health Care Reform (First in the Nation)
As I have been expecting to be the case for quite some time despite my great hopes that it would not need to come to this, Nullification of this unconstitutional usurpation of our rights may be very much necessary.
But lets do this the right way.
1st: We must give the Federal government in the form of the Federal court a fair chance to right themselves and overturn this evil. So we will challenge this in court.
2nd: When that fails we must prepare for the practical measures necessarily to implement nullification. In this case we may need to look at the Federal tax escrow accounts being proposed in Georgia among other state.
We will need to practically deny the IRS the information necessary to enforce their unconstitutional individual mandate. There are probably many ways to do that, every state will have to experiment with and develop their own which they think shall work best in their situation.
We don’t need to agree on how to effectively nully this at the state level in the event the court should side with their employees rather then our Free Constitution of civil government, and the subsequent rights of We the people.
Fortunately We have been for making preparations maneuvering our States into a position where active nullification and interposition is political possible. Lets hope it doesn’t have to come to that, but let us prepare to take such actions none the less.
Take heart my countrymen this fight is FAR from over. Indeed this is something many of us have been laying into place the needed foundation for.
Thanks.
Unfortunately, I’m afraid the courts will judge that to be a slippery slope. They won’t strike down 90 years of law.
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I agree we must anticipate that the court will uphold their appointers unrestricted power. We must therefore ignore them and protect our rights with active and determined nullification and interposition.
we must enforce the State laws against theses things with vigor.
The States can not be “co-equal” governments as defined by the Founders in the sell of the Constitution, if they are to be judge inferior to the Federal government in All respects in which the Federal Government itself chooses to engage in.
Our Constitution is at threat here, the court can choose to refuses to uphold it’s oath all its like and simply place itself in league with the tyrants that now control the Whitehorse and Congress.
Ask them who are responsibility
How is it possible that liberty can survive when the congress and president can do such things of practically unlimited authority in total disregard to the spelled out limits of our constitution, in addition to the will of the people?
How is it that we can even call ourselves a republic of Constitutional law if this cannot be stopped?
It can’t be said enough: “We must therefore ignore them and protect our rights with active and determined nullification and interposition.”
IMO, The SCOTUS will rule against the states. The states and therefore the people will have to decide that they do not care. Real freedom trumps any Supreme Court decision. This is the best case stand that we can take (if the SC rules against us), otherwise we will be completely on our own.
The author also states the passage of socialized medicine is the first time the federales have stepped over the line in a major way. I think most of us here would disagree with that statement, the feral government has been dragging our Constitution through the mud since at least the Civil War. Truth be known, statists began nibbling around the edges before the ink was dry.
Still in all it's maybe a starting point, so -- ~ping~
We can pick a new Capitol and cut them out of the loop while we cleanup our own front yards.
One thing we should all keep in mind and remind everyone.
Recently, McCain-Feingold was thrown out by the Supreme Court. This needs to be our template.
Hopefully VA’s AG Ken Cuccinelli has a the fast track method he suggested to get the case fast tracked.
Some idiot lib I was talking to the other day was talking about how this law will screw evil insurance companies.
My impression of insurance companies is they are quiet and slow but once they are provoked - they are like the hounds from hell. You do not want to piss them off.
They also plan ahead. I am hoping the legal research has already been dones to get a case fast tracked to SCOTUS.
McCain Feingold was thrown out in total about two months ago?
The Dems howled and screamed. Mainly because McCain helped them gain Congress in 2006/2008 and the white house 2008 thanks to his evil law.
This should be our templaye but it has to be on a fast track.
VA AG Ken Cuccinelli has supposedly said he will be able to fast track their case. Ken C is the real deal.
I would also add, about a year ago, give or take, and in the early going when the 10th Amendment initiatives were just beginning to show up on the radar there were several discussions concerning ways to cut off the feral beast. At various times over the decades various States and individuals(?) had proposed ways of doing just that. So, it's not like this hasn't been given some thought by some well connected people in and out of State government in the past. Whether or not any of these "plans" are workable is something I'm sure some of the PTB's within our State Houses are privy to. I just hope they can develop a plan that will give the feral government pause with even the threat of implementation.
I'm sure the insurance industry as a whole would like nothing better than to stick a soldering iron up odinga's, well....
Odinga is making some powerful enemies to be sure. I believe most corporations are like many politicians, there has to be a parade in progress before they will jump in the fray. Or in the case of politicians, jump out in front of the parade. I believe corporations have been cowed and emasculated by Dims, the airheads in academia and the barking moonbats in the media. We The People can probably have a large influence on the business community generally IF they can be convinced we conservatives have joined the fight to the finish and fully intend to reclaim our heritage and our freedoms.
I want an injunction on the bill by the federal court until such time that it is ruled Constitutional.
Government actions are not Legal until proven illegal. They are illegal until “proven” legal.
If you really want to use a technique that could work, the states should refuse federal funding attached to federal programs. As I understand it, this nasty piece of work has an expanded Medicaid component for which the states will have to cough up a substantial match. They will also probably be required to enact legislation allowing for certain minimum coverage under state Medicaid, Healthy Families and other such programs. As this bill is an extra-Constitutional federal program, if the states send all the federal health money back and opt out of the program, then the feds are cut off at the ankles on that portion of the scheme.
Mark Levin can take care of the requirement to purchase individual insurance with his lawsuit on the Constitutionality of such a mandate. That would give individuals relief.
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