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Why are climate scientists losing the American public?
Washington Post ^ | 3/14/2010 | Stephen Stromberg

Posted on 03/14/2010 6:09:25 AM PDT by ricks_place

Even as predictions about the possible effects of climate change get more troubling by the day, Americans are increasingly skeptical of the science. The latest evidence is this concerning Gallup poll:

A majority of Americans still agree that global warming is real, as 53% say the effects of the problem have already begun or will do so in a few years. That percentage is dwindling, however. The average American is now less convinced than at any time since 1997 that global warming's effects have already begun or will begin shortly.

Meanwhile, 35% say that the effects of global warming either will never happen (19%) or will not happen in their lifetimes (16%).

The 19% figure is more than double the number who held this view in 1997.

Depressing news for environmentalists, who have spent years building the public case for concern.

Environmental groups often explain why they are losing the public relations war by, among other things, citing George Will’s “campaign” against global warming and other such efforts, arguing that they have made the science seem less settled than it is. Americans are having trouble telling the difference between relatively small criticisms of the science or scientists -- minor mistakes in the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s 2007 report or the release of overheated private exchanges among a few climate scientists, for example -- and the solid case for the bottom-line on global warming: that it’s extremely likely it’s happening, it’s extremely likely that it’s at least partially our fault, and, if unabated, it’s extremely likely to have some rather unpleasant consequences.

But a big factor is also that the issue became more partisan as the Democratic Congress got serious about legislating.

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To: jiggyboy

BTW as that 10-14% figure for “will happen in our lifetime” hardly varies at all for a period of over twelve years, as the other categories move up and down, that says to me that we have some “dead enders” who would never change their mind as they freeze to death in the dark. Another perfect example of a data point for my tagline.


21 posted on 03/14/2010 6:41:08 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: ricks_place

Because we’re COLD, you idiot!


22 posted on 03/14/2010 6:43:14 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Aw, CUSSWORDS!!!)
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To: ricks_place

“A majority of Americans ... say the effects of the problem
have already begun or will do so in a few years.”
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And just what do these people base their answer on?
Personally observed effects?
Personal analysis of the data?
Or the brainwashing from the media and politicians?

My honest answer to the question is “I have no idea,
and I don’t think anyone else does either.”

I have no predisposed faith in any of the agenda-driven
quasi-scientific reports that I have read;
and I have personally seen nothing to indicate this
one way or the other.

Survey:
Do you think it will be a good year for growing tomatoes?
Now, how do I answer that question?
Well, last year was good, but the year before was not.
How do I “know” what it will be like this year?
Or next year, or the next one after that?
By facts?
By speculation?
Or because I heard someone on TV from the national tomato institute
say something about it one way or the other?

I’ve started my seedlings in the basement, we’ll see...


23 posted on 03/14/2010 6:43:56 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Thank you for your contribution. Your comment has been submitted for review.)
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To: jiggyboy
These “warmers” aren't “scientists”. They are deceitful, dishonest, unethical political whores and charlatans. The only people who “believe” them are those involved in their schemes to rake the rest of us over the coals for their financial and power gains. I guess there could be one other group of supporters of them...the mentally disturbed.
24 posted on 03/14/2010 6:44:40 AM PDT by hal ogen
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To: ricks_place
"manipulated"

Add to that the fact the weather is something average people can observe. People know whether it's been getting warmer or colder. The warmist's weather models failed to predict the leveling off of temperature gains for the past fifteen years. People pay attention.

25 posted on 03/14/2010 6:51:51 AM PDT by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: ricks_place
Depressing news for environmentalists, who have spent years building the public case for concern

Depressing news indeed. All those years of lying to the public in order to advance their political agenda. This little pinhead journalist believes that the dust up over the IPCC is just a matter of a few "minor errors". He is clearly one of those who has fallen for the environmental propaganda and is more than happy to continue carrying water for them. These are not minor errors, they are evidence of widespread and very deliberate fraud. The American public understand this, intellectual twits like Stephen Stromberg have yet to catch on.

26 posted on 03/14/2010 6:52:39 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: ricks_place

Because the scientists rigged their data to meet their own agenda!!! Why would anyone believe them now. They’ve lost their credibility!!!


27 posted on 03/14/2010 6:52:47 AM PDT by hstacey (An ounce of pretension is worth a pound of manure...)
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To: ricks_place

In answer to the article title:

Look out the window at all the global warming on the ground!!!


28 posted on 03/14/2010 6:54:08 AM PDT by Edward Watson
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To: Tax-chick

BINGO!


29 posted on 03/14/2010 6:57:40 AM PDT by piytar (Ammo is hard to find! Bought some lately? Please share where at www.ammo-finder.com)
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To: ricks_place

These scientists have spent their credibility. No matter what they say going forward their findings will be met with scorn and sceptisim by the American public.


30 posted on 03/14/2010 7:02:21 AM PDT by Dem Guard
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To: ricks_place

Offhand, I’d say it may have something to do with how the “evidence” is/was manipulated, the phony numbers used, the phony polar bear pics, the emails encouraging a cover up, the insistence that the debate is over, the carbon credits scam, the fact that al gore is a lying nimrod, the fact that the people pushing this scam are well known liars and crooks, the thousands of scientists who disagree with the scammers, the money trail, the fact that there hasn’t been any warming for over a decade, greenland was once green, no SUVs on Mars, incredibly STUPID commercials with child actors(what kind of idiot would accept scientific instruction from a child?), the liars keep moving the goalpost and losing track of their lies, al gore is an confirmed jerkwad, ect...

Take your pick. Or you can just sum it up with the truth...

There is zero compelling evidence to support this crap.


31 posted on 03/14/2010 7:12:27 AM PDT by agromination ("Fear will keep the local systems in line. Fear of this battle station." Grand Moff Obama)
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To: ricks_place
$cience is corrupted. Climate $cientest? Evolution has its share of $cientific “facts”. Na$a found a rock that came for Mars just in time to get new finding.
32 posted on 03/14/2010 7:13:00 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: ricks_place
minor mistakes in the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s 2007 report or the release of overheated private exchanges among a few climate scientists, for example -- and the solid case for the bottom-line on global warming:

No bias here, just move along.

33 posted on 03/14/2010 7:14:25 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: ricks_place
Why are climate scientists losing the American public?

Maybe because average people are able to read thermometers even if climate scientists can't.

34 posted on 03/14/2010 7:17:53 AM PDT by stevem
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To: Flintlock; Edward Watson
Duhhhhhhh—just who do you think is BEHIND THE SNOW SHOVEL?

More of us than ever.
According to the Rutgers University Global Snow Lab, the decade of 2001-2010 was the snowiest decade on record in the Northern Hemisphere.
35 posted on 03/14/2010 7:20:47 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: ricks_place

Check out the comments at Washington Post. Got lots of people refuting this Stromberg dufus....Oh he went to Harvard

http://www.thecrimson.com/writer/3546/Stephen_W._Stromberg/page/2/


36 posted on 03/14/2010 7:23:23 AM PDT by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: ricks_place

Why are climate scientists losing us on global warming? Could have to do with the heaping tons of bovine excrement that they are dishing out.


37 posted on 03/14/2010 7:24:18 AM PDT by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: piytar

38 at my casa this morning.


38 posted on 03/14/2010 7:41:58 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Aw, CUSSWORDS!!!)
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To: GoldenPup

It may not be BS. Was the earth warming between 1970 & 1990? Probably. The satellite readings - about the only thing I trust anymore - indicate some warming.

Has it warmed over the last 20 years? Probably not.

Has man caused any of it? Well, I’m waiting for evidence the Neanderthals drove their SUVs until 2 mile thick ice melted all away...

But if you asked me if the earth has warmed some over the last 50 years? Perhaps. But that doesn’t mean it still is, that it will warm, that warming is bad, or that we are causing it.

I’d be far more frightened if the earth had cooled further over the last 100 years. If the average summer highs in Tucson were 85 instead of 105, I’d be scared. We have LOTS of evidence of severe ice ages in the past!


39 posted on 03/14/2010 7:50:47 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: hstacey
Because the scientists rigged their data to meet their own agenda!!! Why would anyone believe them now. They’ve lost their credibility!!!

Their theories might still be correct. The falsified data might be:

"Fake but accurate"

40 posted on 03/14/2010 7:59:53 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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