Posted on 02/18/2010 6:59:52 AM PST by Brices Crossroads
Nonsense. Freepers who question ALL politicians are the best Freepers there are.
Do we want another compromiser with the truth as President? People were just as gung ho to support George W Bush around here and look how that turned out. He ended up handing over ALL THREE BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT to socialists! A true conservative would NOT have done that.
So are we going to put our blinders on again and refuse to acknowledge weaknesses in our candidates? I hope not. But if it’s true that most people do not learn from history I’m afraid Freepers here will end up making the same mistakes as last time.
My point is that if one wants to run for President, they’re going to need some backing from the party establishment. Your example is best suited for those running in Congressional races.
One thing that people may not have thought about is that Palin (along with Thompson and others) know many of these political players personally, so they know their true character. Imagine if we were discussing Mark Sanford five years ago and he was running against a RINO and someone we liked supported the RINO. It may have been because that someone knew that Sanford was a philandering SOB who would do just as much harm in the long run. Now, I’m not saying JD is in the least, but we don’t know all the motivations behind these endorsements.
Limbaugh’s so called defense of Palin only points out he is putting party over principle. That’s damning with faint praise.
I know. I see the PDS group, small but dogged, out every day and night, baying at the moon. I was glad Rush held forth on this. it is hard to say that both Palin and Rush Limbaugh are RINOs and have much credibility at all. (as I said earlier, they could accuse Reagan of being a RINO for picking Richard Schweiker as his Veep to try to win the nomination from Ford in 1976. This was, at the time, a very controversial move and was pretty nakedly political. Schweiker grew more conservative, but at the time he was a very liberal Republican with an ACU of 5%. That didn’t seem to damage Reagan in 1980, did it?
My serious assessment of this...
Rush understands politics and so does Sarah
Rush doesn't think this is a make or break deal, nor do I
People who think Reagan was perfect are suffering from fuzzy memories
Anyone dumping support of Sarah over this is a flake
The only way Sarah can win the Presidency, should she decide to pursue it, is to run as a Republican. Third parties are pie-in-the-sky losers in the very real world of politics.
Rush's analysis - note analysis - of this situation was accurate.
And I'm donating to J.D. Hayworth today.
Her support of McCain is a no brainer, as Rush explained, loyalty is a good thing, plus can you imagine the uproar from the media 24/7 if she didn't support him?
It's so silly for so many to be suddenly upset with her and call her a RINO for supporting the man who picked her as his VP candidate. Short sighted and petty.
I think what you’re really saying is: someone with principles, followed by a parenthetical . . as long as they agree with MY principles. And on that, you are free to either endorse or reject her decission. It’s about choices, to with which SP has made her own. And quite possibly not for the reasons you believe. Rush is absolutly correct on this, IMO.
In any case, this is politics as usual with GOP candidates. And, another trip to the wilderness lead by RINOS.
If you prefer the "principle of perfection" over the principle of preserving this great Republic, then perhaps you should adjust your priorities.
Good. At least you aren’t compromising on your donations. :)
Nonsense yourself. She has said long ago that she was going to endorse McCain when JD was a twinkle in people's eyes. Now that JD is in the race, people are complaining about it.
This is an unnecessary sidebar that is distracting conservatives. How is Sarah's support of McCain going to influence YOU? She's not going to go change her mind on this. So what are we arguing for?
I’m not sure if I am remembering this correctly, but didn’t Sarah Palin say, at the time she endorsed Doug Hoffman in New York, that she would back the conservative over the Republican every time? I like Sarah, but I wish she would stand up for her true beliefs and NOT back McCain.
McPain has also made disparaging remarks about Palin.
Source, please.
No problem!
Video: McCain declines to endorse Palin for 2012posted at 1:59 pm on December 14, 2008 by Allahpundit
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/12/14/video-mccain-declines-to-endorse-palin-for-2012/
“It’s too early to be making endorsements when we don’t know who’s running or what the issues will be, but naturally she’s my preference going into it.”
See video at the link.
Why the reluctance to ENDORSE her? Playing coy is the same as NOT ENDORSING her.
We have GOT to get Hayworth in there. Hayworth will get in people’s faces. McCain will get in people’s faces too, but the difference is that Hayworth will get in the face of the enemy. I’d like to see someone pick a fistfight with Frankenstein. Hayworth might be the guy to do it.
Rush is always the voice of reason.
We know he probably despises McCain and so do I. McCain is shamelessly using Sarah after letting his staff and even wife and daughter criticize her.
Even if he knows he’s putting her in a spot, he’s still doing it.
“Nonsense. Freepers who question ALL politicians are the best Freepers there are.”
No. Some posters show up on specific thread to bash specific people, for a purpose. many are closet Romney bots who try to throw stones at Palin but cannot come out for Mitt for fear of being zotted. Others are Paul devotees who love to tilt at windmills and follow the latest conspiracy.
Most of the rest of us, probably 85%, want to elect a Regan conservative to the Presidency in 2012, and most of the rest of us think that is Sarah Palin.
It’s nonsense to question all politicians?
Here, I have a glass of RINO Kool-aid for you to partake of. I don’t want it. LOL!
CharlesWayne, you just don’t stop, do you? Bless your heart.
I hope you’re proven right but Freepers were wrong about George W. Bush being a conservative and history could be repeating itself with Sarah Palin.
this is so idiotic, why is he doing this in the midst of the healthcare uproar? why is he doing this at all? because 6 NFL players tested positive?
http://www.nutraingredients-usa.com/Regulation/Industry-calls-on-Senators-to-block-McCain-s-supplements-bill/?c=bf8lQJIvenDprTXoHeIARA%3D%3D&utm_source=newsletter_weekly&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Newsletter%2BWeekly
And neither is Sarah. She is her own woman with some of the strongest principles of anyone who's come down the political pike. I'm not endorsing her for President..........yet...........but I sure do admire her for her unwavering principles.
The idea that she should be thrown overboard for this choice to endorse the man who brought her to national attention, is, IMO, silly.
Your point?
We can’t control what Acorn does, but we can certainly control how we examine and support our own candidates.
Rush and Palin are wrong on this. This is not the general election. McCain is worse than a RINO - he is a RINO with a rotten, mean streak.
That’s it? That’s “disparaging?” Wow, he really skewered her, didn’t he? /s/
They were right about him being the 'more conservative' choice and frankly, with what we faced with, for most of his tenure, he was conservative where it mattered. As William F Buckley put it, he is conservative but he isn't A Conservative. (in other words, he is on balance more conservative on the scale but he isn't a Conservative champion).
I admire her for showing grace under constant attack by the radical left.
I simply DO NOT want a repeat of a compromising RINO George W Bush presidency. That’s what got us Obama and Senate and Congress controlled by Democrats. A false sheep will always lead you astray.
No, it's nonsense to question someone who decided months ago to support McCain BEFORE anyone declared to run against him.
It's nonsense to call Palin a RINO when she has clearly endorsed far more conservatives over RINOs, and who's record of accomplishments and speeches is clearly conservative.
“McCain is shamelessly using Sarah after letting his staff and even wife and daughter criticize her.”
I don’t disagree with that. If that is the case, it reflects poorly on him. Sarah Palin is bigger than that. What, if anything McCain and his people do reflects on them. I think Palin views this as a matter of duty. And she is going to do her duty in this matter as God has given her the light to see that duty. I would not presume to second guess her. Once she has done this, I believe she will be quits with McCain.
RINO = Republican Infighting Nets Obama!
Hey, Tom, that’s not exactly true. I love Fred but everybody knows he’s always been tight with McCain (something I can’t understand).
Sarah, on the other hand, owes her political career to McCain and she knows it. It would not only look really tacky to refuse to support him now and that’s not her character anyway.
She will support JD if, God willing, he wins the nomination. JD himself said he would support McCain if he wins the nom.
I think Rush believes we can win back the presidency with a good REPUBLICAN conservative candidate and the main thing he’s afraid of is some 3rd party rearing it’s ugly head.
A lot of people seem to forget that DB H. Ross Perot gave us 8 yeaars of Clinton.
Thanks for posting the transcript, iowamark. Can’t say I disagree with Rush on his explanation for Palin’s endorsement. Just before he gave this explanation, Rush trashed McCain.....lol.
George W Bush was not a strong conservative. You get what you vote for and support. That’s my point. GW gave speeches before he was even president talking about “the new world order” but in 1999 you couldn’t say that here on Free Republic without being attacked or kicked off the board.
We need to be smarter about our next candidate for President. MUCH smarter. We can’t be like the liberals and make our decisions on emotions, but put our thinking caps on and look at our candidates squarely and honestly.
If Palin considers her loyalty and obligations to a politician greater than those to the Constitution, then that’s unfortunately all I need to know about her. :(
Huh?
“Look how that turned out.”
Now why don't you tell us?
How did it turn out?
Agreed. Ideology is certainly important in politics, but team and personal loyalty is what makes parties work. Sometimes you have break with the person in public, but it should be rare. A loner or maverick may be fun to write about, but they don’t get much help from others.
I’ll bet that in AZ, McCain has been somewhat consistent with his state folks. I’m not a fan of McCain, but can certainly see what Palin is doing. She is also saying, publicly, that she will support and won’t stab team mates in the back. Teams form around people like that.
Rush didn’t push anyone in the primary and if you listened to him, you’d know that. I’m pretty sure he favored Fred but he never singled out anyone for praise.
People who criticize Rush should at least listen to him, unlike the MSM.
I've noticed that too.
If Gov Palin keeps campaigning for RINOs, I'll rethink my support for her. BUT, I bet she'll campaign for JD if he wins the primary.
I think her support of McCain is a matter of doing what she believes is the right thing to do. I also believe her committment to do the honorable thing will override her committment to do what would benefit her more politically. She will do the honorable thing even if it ticks people off. It's one of the things I appreciate about her.
By the way, I don't know about you guys but I am OVER people claming those who support her are "worshipping" her. That is blasphemous and slanderous. I worship God, by the grace of Jesus Christ, and no one else, thank you very much.
Gov Palin is a human, makes mistakes and I will not always agree with her. But I do support her politically. Her track record is impressive to me, but I am not devoted to her. She is not the only one I support, either, there are several conservatives I support and think they would do well.
Unless Rush comes out and throws his support to Hayworth, he IS carrying the GOP piss bucket.
Thanks for the transcript.
“Rush didn’t push anyone in the primary”
You are deluding yourself. They all did on talk radio: Rush, Glenn, Laura, et al.
But to the point of the thread. There is nothing "false" about Sarah Palin. Nothing at all.
This endorsement of McCain is not a sell out. It is not an indication that she is anything other than what we have always known her to be - a principled conservative.
It is possible for a rational person to DISAGREE with another person and not throw said person overboard because of the disagreement.
I disagree with Sarah's endorsement of McCain. It does not alter my respect for her one iota, because I am not arrogant enough to expect political leaders to do everything I want them to do. No one ever has, and no one ever will.
Surely there must be a slew of other things you don't like Sarah for, because if this is the only thing turning you from supporting her, then your respect for her was never real, was it?
Sounds like it to me.
And there are Conservatives who analyze Palin and logically conclude that she lacks the experience and knowledge to make a desirable Commander in Chief for 2012.
Here's what I'm glad about Rush's weighing in on this topic: I think this is evidence that Rush and Team Sarah are talking, coordinating and working together to Take Our Country Back! (note: stay with the video, ignore the 'we' stuff part; 'we' at FR weren't fooled by the poseur)
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