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Proposed Legislation Could Ban All Ammunition in Vermont!
NRA - ILA ^ | January 28, 2010 | NA

Posted on 01/29/2010 7:12:33 AM PST by neverdem

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To: neverdem
Even in the USSR slave states ammunition was not banned
completely, a hunter could have a smooth bore with type
and quanity of ammunition tightly controled.
21 posted on 01/29/2010 7:58:32 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
As usual, the freedom-hating bureaucrats can't make their case for civilian disarmament on the basis of legal merit, so they attempt to circumvent existing law via things like arbitrarily defining lead as a "poisonous substance".

Sort of like how the EPA just cooked up the definition of CO2 as a "pollutant", thereby making a "polluter" of every creature on Earth.

It's nuts.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

22 posted on 01/29/2010 8:00:02 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: JimVT
I don't know but I think the NRA is over-reacting to this proposal. Here's a link to the proposed regulation. VT

Thanks for the link. I read almost 4 pages of the 18 pdf pages. They were talking about "chemical" defined as they pleased. I searched for lead, but I couldn't find it, although lead is a ubiquitous element. Elemental lead is one of the least reactive elements found in nature. These clowns know just enough science and toxicology as to be worse than useless. They just cause needless trouble.

23 posted on 01/29/2010 8:02:40 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: muawiyah
Quebec has a large population little changed in its attitudes from its first big surge in the 1600s when it was the main piece of New France.

Not true. Only a generation ago, Quebec had the highest birthrate in the Americas. Now it has the lowest. They have largely rejected the Catholic culture handed down to them (the French they cling to is but a shadow of that culture) and have pretty much embraced nihilistic materialism and are the worse for it.

Protestant Ontario is just as anti-gun, if not more so, than Quebec.
24 posted on 01/29/2010 8:08:03 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: muawiyah
>> Teams of NRA members should be allowed to go door to door in Vermont teaching the poor folks there the truth of why guns are good <<

You gotta be kidding. Vermont is already among the most pro-gun states in the USA. That honorable tradition hasn't been negated even by the recent influx of Brooklyn-born socialists like Bernie Sanders and Manhattan-born "aristocrats" like Howard Dean.

So maybe what's really needed is for teams of rural Vermonters to go door to door in Massachusetts to explain why guns are good!

25 posted on 01/29/2010 9:06:13 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: neverdem

“Following Commissioner Johnson’s testimony, proponent Charity Carbine of the Vermont Public Interest Research Group (VPIRG), testified and did not challenge the commissioner’s assertion that H. 484 could result in the banning of ammunition.”

Well...isn’t that a COINCIDENCE, at one time (in his Marxist formative years) Barack Obama also worked for Public Research Interest Group.

1984 Obama works for three months as a community organizer for the New York Public Interest Research Group (NYPIRG), a Ralph Nader offshoot trying “to mobilize minority students at City College of New York about the importance of recycling” at City College of New York in Harlem.

City College of new York is known for hatching four famous Marxist professors, Irving Kristol, Nathan Glazer, Daniel Bell and Irving Howe, who owned or published leftist magazines like “The New Leader”, “Commentary”, “Dissent”, and “The Public Interest”.

Well, well, well....will wonders ever cease?

These obamamaniacs just keep getting more and more clever and devious, dont’t they?

Let’s just take away the rights of law-abiding citizens of Vermont to procure ammunition for regular guns (not semi-automatic weapons) by adopting some seemingly mundane “Fish and Widlife” oriented ordinance (no pun intended).

Well, OBVIOUSLY, those proposing this legislation have greatly underestimated how fiercely Vermonters are willing to defend their own right to bear (and USE) arms!


26 posted on 01/29/2010 10:03:00 AM PST by BIOCHEMKY (I love liberty more than I hate war.)
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To: neverdem; All

This will go over REAL well in VT ...

I went to college in VT - deer hunting is a rite of passage into manhood ther ...

This will go over like a lead brick ...


27 posted on 01/29/2010 10:59:03 AM PST by Lmo56
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To: Joe Brower
A flash to the past...(f5 to refresh as it's a 2000 posting
Can't take your guns, we'll control the Ammo (my title)
How long will it be until all ammunition is "green", and other manufacturers are forced to comply to "green" regulations? The next step in gradual implementation would be to shut down non-compliant companies, enforcing sales through government regulations, and effectively disarming the People through lack of ammunition. No bullets, they can't fire the weapons.

It's taking more than 10 years and it is happening under the "green" agenda.

28 posted on 01/29/2010 12:12:07 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Baynative

Yup, started with seat belt laws and helmet laws. Many here on FREErepublic vociferously defended the laws.


29 posted on 01/29/2010 12:15:12 PM PST by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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To: Joe Brower
They are nuts!!
30 posted on 01/29/2010 12:27:24 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: neverdem; bamahead

Good!

That would mean more for the rest of us!!! :p


31 posted on 01/29/2010 12:33:44 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: BIOCHEMKY
City College of new York is

My alma mater, chemistry major, free tuition, short commute and the GI Bill, I could deal with it. Academically, CCNY had a great reputation prior to open admissions.

32 posted on 01/29/2010 1:31:44 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

RKBA is a closed-case issue in VT; their supreme court has made this very clear in very simple terms. I don’t see how such a ban could possibly stand there.


33 posted on 01/29/2010 1:37:54 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Pelosi is practically President; the Obama is just her talk show host.)
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To: neverdem; wolfman23601

They must be putting that funny stuff in the Ben & Jerry’s.


34 posted on 01/29/2010 1:39:48 PM PST by Canedawg (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: wolfman23601
I was born and raised in Vermont. I got my first .22 rifle when I was eight. Joined the service and went away for forty years. When we were looking at homes there, thinking to retire back home, we noticed that there were guns in every house we looked at. Leaning against the wall, hung over the mantle or over the door, in closets and mud rooms, shotguns, and rifles were everywhere.

Warms my heart just thinking about it.

35 posted on 01/29/2010 2:04:00 PM PST by Chuckster (Domari nolo!)
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To: muawiyah

I will resist the temptation to insult you, your family, your ancestors, your cultural heritage, your neighbors and your home state as you have mine.

Rather let me suggest that you should go to wherever you got your education and demand your money back. Alternatively, you could sue your parents for raising such an ill mannered fool.


36 posted on 01/29/2010 2:11:24 PM PST by Chuckster (Domari nolo!)
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To: neverdem
These are the members, elected officials all. Vermonters, get ye to their email.
Rep. David L. Deen, Chair
Rep. Steve Adams, Vice Chair
Rep. Jim McCullough, Ranking Member
Rep. Charles W. Bohi
Rep. Peter J. Fagan
Rep. Bob Krebs
Rep. Robert W. Lewis
Rep. Floyd Nease
Rep. Kate Webb, Clerk
37 posted on 01/29/2010 2:45:13 PM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: ctdonath2
“RKBA is a closed-case issue in VT; their supreme court has made this very clear in very simple terms. I don’t see how such a ban could possibly stand there.”

Let us hope so. But EPA environmentalism has been allowed to overrule long standing property rights and the rule of law in the rest of the US.

38 posted on 01/29/2010 2:53:44 PM PST by marktwain
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To: gimme1ibertee

Charity Carbine, Environmental Health Advocate (802) 223-8421
Charity Carbine is VPIRG’s Environmental Health Advocate. Before joining the VPIRG team, Charity spent four years as an organizer for the New York Public Interest Research Group. As a Project Coordinator at Hunter College, she recruited and trained students. Charity then went on to join NYPIRG’s Straphangers Campaign – a mass transit advocacy group that represents and protects the interests of New York’s riding public. As a Field Organizer for the Straphangers Campaign, Charity worked on a variety of successful campaigns including the Transportation Bond Act and the Campaign for New York’s Future. Before joining the world of PIRG, Charity graduated with a degree in International Relations from Eckerd College and was actively involved in social just issues both in Florida and her home state of Maryland. At VPIRG, Charity leads our efforts to reduce toxins in the environment and promote the precautionary approach to chemical exposure. She also coordinates field organizing efforts to close down the Vermont Yankee nuclear power plant.

It would appear that there is indeed a real Charity Carbine!
Whatever happened to Pussy Galore? Maybe she is running a campaign to eliminate prostitution.


39 posted on 01/29/2010 3:06:24 PM PST by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: OldArmy52

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40 posted on 01/29/2010 3:16:31 PM PST by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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