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Obamacare Is Dead and Here's Why [Obamacare Ongoing Thread]
Town Hall ^ | 1-26-10 | Robert A. Levy

Posted on 01/25/2010 11:27:02 PM PST by JustPiper

As the Massachusetts blame game unfolds, the president’s unpopular health bill leads the list. But the substantive provisions of the bill were just part of the problem. Perhaps more important, voters were appalled by how the deal unfolded.

Consider the pre-election giveaway to the labor unions. Negotiators agreed to exempt union contracts until 2018 from the tax on so-called Cadillac health-insurance plans. That backroom bargain not only outraged the voters, it also violated the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, requiring the federal government to extend equal protection of the laws to all U.S. persons. Of course, not all voters understood the constitutional nuances, but they sensed that something was very wrong; and they reacted.

I have been disturbed by the socialists for years, ever since I learned many members of Congress 'openly' joined the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America). Several years ago, the names were published on the DSA site. (since removed of course) Please post any info you have, many of you have been on this issue for many years, & if we can store it all on one thread, we have our FreeRepublic Warehouse on the enemies of the state. How DO we combat this, when it's coming at us from every angle? When the people have been asleep for decades. Please post anything you have found or accumulated. Also choose a dictator these people follow, of particular interest,those in D.C. who have been quoted with their adulation of one.

Communism- Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism-Trotskyism-Maoism- Hoxhaism-Hoxhaism-Titoism ETC


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To: All; MestaMachine; azishot; blackie; stephenjohnbanker; Arthur Wildfire! March

EXPOSE OBAMA

IMPEACH OBAMA

Left Admits Obama's Intent is Redistribution, Reversal of Reagan- Rush

Will the methods used to pass HealthCare become the model formula for a new damn-the-torpedoes, full-speed-ahead progressive agenda? By Victor Davis Hanson

12 Taxes in Health Care Law Violate Obama’s Pledge Not to Increase Taxes on Households Earning Less than $250,000

Public Pension Fraud Increases on top of Gov’t Health Care’s Fraudulent Accounting

Alinsky trainer developed 1st Obama volunteers Group modeled on Marxist icon teaches tactics of confrontation, intimidation

The Blind Side: Starring Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama

Politics of Fear

The True Agenda Of Obamacare Progressives Exposed

2,821 posted on 03/26/2010 10:46:26 AM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March; All


Double Trouble Brewing for Anti-Abortion Democrats? Anti-Abortion Democrats Who Voted for Health Care Bill Will Be Targeted in Nov.

Dems, GOP Trade Accusations of Politically Exploiting Threats

Declarations of War Against a Marxist America

Cuban leader applauds US health-care reform bill---Dubious endorsement? Cuban leader endorses US health care reform, says it's about time

2,822 posted on 03/26/2010 10:52:15 AM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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To: Abakumov; blackie; All

Glenn Beck: We are watching the 2nd revolution

As Americans find that the package won't result in 'Armageddon,' Obama says, any repeal effort will be an uphill battle. But the president tells the GOP: 'Go for it! . . . be my guest.'

Republican assault on healthcare law will backfire, Obama warns

Rep. Neugebauer: 'I will continue to speak' out

Health care plan would make the Founders sick

Republicans Look to Voters for 'Final Say' on Health Care Reform

2,823 posted on 03/26/2010 11:02:30 AM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March; All

In the aftermath of the Health Care Reform bill passage, while the Democrats busy themselves characterizing their own constituents as terrorists, they might want to give some thought to the real terrorists out there they have been more or less ignoring for the last year. It might be prudent to do so since a 200 kiloton air burst over Washington would render the subject of health insurance, and Congress itself, moot.

Can Nuclear Terrorism Be Included in Health Insurance?

The National Association of Manufacturers (NAM), an industrial trade association representing small and large manufacturers in every industrial sector and in all 50 states, sent a letter today to the House of Representatives urging members to oppose the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act and related budget reconciliation legislation.

NAM: Just Say No to Health Care Reform Bill

First: Congratulations to President Obama and the Democratic leadership. You won dirty against bipartisan opposition from both Congress and the majority of Americans. You've definitely polarized the country even more, and quite possibly bankrupted us, too. But hey, you won. Bubbly for everyone.

The Reality of Obamacare by Jonah Goldberg

VIDEO: Obama: This is a middle of the road bill that will lead to Universal Health Care Coverage -A student interrupts Obama and yells “what about the public option”

How will New York State set up the Insurance Exchange and administer subsidies for individuals and small businesses? How does the State prepare for large growth in Medicaid enrollment?

Health Reform Passed! What's Next for New York?

VIEDO:Mike Pence: Americans who oppose ObamaCare shouldn’t be smeared by Liberals in Congress

Deere & Co. says new health care reform law will increase fiscal 2010 expenses by about $150M

7 Sickening Questions About Obamacare---What government program has ever reduced the deficit? Why are some in the White House and Congress exempt from this plan? And those questions are just for starters...

2,824 posted on 03/26/2010 11:12:56 AM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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We need four hugs a day for survival.
We need eight hugs a day for maintenance.
We need twelve hugs a day for growth.
--Virginia Satir

PDF:FULL LIST OF SHADY BACKROOM DEALS IN “DEEM AS PASSED” HEALTHCARE BILL

Perriello and Local Hospitals Announce Support for Health Care Reform-Perriello Wants Assurance on Reconciliation Bill from 51 Senators-Washington, DC -Rep. Tom Perriello released the following statement

The health care bill Obama signed into law Tuesday is a triumph for the special interests. It will benefit the biggest businesses, and by injecting more government into the economy, it will permanently stimulate K Street.

White House gives sugar plums to the special interests

VIDEO:Conservatives to Endorse Chuck DeVore at Tea Party Express

2,825 posted on 03/26/2010 11:22:51 AM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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To: wmfights; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg; Alamo-Girl; the_conscience; editor-surveyor; Gamecock

Unbelievable, last night while channel surfing thru the news, I saw an ad on CNN for Lord Matreiya. They are getting ready to foist this creature upon us, he will appear in the air with all sorts of lying wonders. Fortunately the saints will not be deceived.
Notice when you see his imagery things, there is a ball of light,a circle, UN blue,like a certain Kenyan is so fond of, major brain-washing propaganda alert.


2,826 posted on 03/26/2010 12:25:06 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: JustPiper; onyx; SE Mom; Bahbah; hoosiermama; Liz; maggief; DollyCali; MestaMachine; azishot; ...

Krauthammer’s Take [NRO Staff]

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On the Democrats’ move to fix problems with Obamacare:

I think the real problem is there is so much in the bill that is delegated to the bureaucrats, to the Department of Health and Human Services, for example.

For example, we don’t know what will be the required basket of coverage that any plan is going to have to have in order to be – quote — “acceptable” to the federal government and thus to [be eligible to] receive a subsidy if you buy it.

That’s going to be determined in the future by the secretary of HHS, and that could be arbitrary.

I mean, if you are a 70-year-old widow, are you going to need drug-abuse rehab coverage? If you are a single male, are you going to need obstetrics? Of course not. But all of this will be decreed by a bureaucrat, unelected. It’s not in the law now, it will be decided. And there is a lot of this which is going to be decided.

And the other example of this, and the one that people are really worried about, is these committees that will decide which is acceptable or the best treatment.

Once you have a committee like that — as of now it’s advisory, but in the future it could easily become compulsory as costs rise, as happened in Britain, which has the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence, the NICE committee it’s called, which decides who gets drugs and cancer [treatment].

If it’s expensive, you don’t get it.

And that’s what’s in the bill but not written in detail today. It will all be decided in the future by unelected committees and bureaucrats.

On the White House not allowing coverage of the meetings between President Obama and Israeli prime minister Netanyahu:

They meet for several hours — no press, no pictures, no joint appearances, as if the prime minister of Israel is toxic, as if somehow he represents a pariah state.

It feeds into the perception around the world, particularly in the Arab world and in some elements in Europe, of Israel as a pariah state.

Over what? This example of the Shepherd Hotel: The eastern part of Jerusalem has Jewish neighborhoods, Arab neighborhoods, and mixed neighborhoods. People are purchasing land, selling it all the time.

There are about 200,000 Jews in the eastern area of Jerusalem. Imagine a city in the United States of that size where you have every day construction, permits issued, as a matter of routine. So, of course, there’s going to be an announcement here or there. It’s a breathing, living city.

The idea that there should be no construction or no purchase or selling of houses is absurd. It would mean strangling the Jewish areas in Jerusalem and essentially extinguishing them ultimately.

And this idea that it’s Arab east Jerusalem: It houses the Western Wall and the Jewish Quarter. It’s odd, isn’t it, that you have the Jewish Quarter in what people are calling Arab east Jerusalem? It has been — continually there has been Jewish habitation for over 2,000 years.

And the only reason it was Arab was [that] for 20 years [1948 — 1967] the Jordanian army expelled all the Jews! In ‘67 the Jews returned, and that’s why it’s a mixed area in the eastern side of Jerusalem. It’s Jewish and it’s Arab.

On the allegation that Jerusalem construction announcements were timed by the Israeli government to wreck negotiations with the Palestinians:

It’s absurd. It’s a large city with its own municipal government with its own [commissions] and councils. It’s got construction transactions all over. Israel is incredibly bureaucratic. Every construction requires 20 approvals.

So on any afternoon you are going to have an announcement of some sort. It would happen in any city of that size anywhere in America.

03/25 04:41 PM

http://corner.nationalreview.com/?page=2

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Pray for Israel, pray for us all


2,827 posted on 03/26/2010 12:38:29 PM PDT by STARWISE (KILL DEMON PASS! CALL THE LIST TODAY!! http://tinyurl.com/yk6e2u2)
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To: JustPiper

So, to me, it’s the same thing only a little different. (pig, lipstick)

Like how long has it been called Costco and yet I still call it Price Club. Old habits die hard.


2,828 posted on 03/26/2010 12:40:14 PM PDT by azishot (J.D. Hayworth...U.S. Senator FOR Arizona...http://www.jdforsenate.com/)
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To: 1000 silverlings; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg; Alamo-Girl; the_conscience; editor-surveyor; Gamecock
I saw an ad on CNN for Lord Matreiya. They are getting ready to foist this creature upon us, he will appear in the air with all sorts of lying wonders. Fortunately the saints will not be deceived.

Economic collapse can cause all kinds of otherwise good people to grab onto anything that looks like it may be a way out. As tough as things are the one thing I don't fear is death. If things get so bad that we are all expected to blindly follow some guy who preaches anything other than "Christ Crucified" I know where I stand.

I think most people don't understand how bad our economic situation is. Just look at Greece, we are just 3-5 yrs behind them. Social Security has started dramatic draw down (more going out then coming in), Medicare is bankrupt, taxes are going up with unemployment over 10% and the govt is running 1.5 Trillion dollar deficits for the next 10 years!

2,829 posted on 03/26/2010 12:44:07 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: JustPiper

Hallelujah!!


2,830 posted on 03/26/2010 12:46:38 PM PDT by blackie
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Remember when Obama said he wanted a “national security force”? Not the national guard, but a civilian one that has not sworn to uphold the Constitution? On July 2, 2008 in a speech in Colorado Springs, Barack Obama called for a police state. WATCH this CHILLING VIDEO proposal!

Obama Just Got His Private Army

On same page-Remember that first alarming glimpse of what that army might look like? Notice how much these “Hitler youth” type young men talk about health care!


2,831 posted on 03/26/2010 12:48:12 PM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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To: JustPiper

Chilling.


2,832 posted on 03/26/2010 12:49:22 PM PDT by onyx (Facts don't matter. Proof not required. Anything goes! Racial slurs, death threats.....)
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To: onyx; MamaDearest; ThePatriotsFlag; MestaMachine; azishot; blackie; stephenjohnbanker; ...

Mama found this before it’s been reported, it’s being picked up Friends, keep it going! American Daughter expounded it in all it’s GORY detials!

Obama just got his private army…

…And no one seems to have noticed. It is buried in the Senate revisions to the health care bill.

Subtitle C–Increasing the Supply of the Health Care Workforce
Sec. 5201. Federally supported student loan funds.
Sec. 5202. Nursing student loan program.
Sec. 5203. Health care workforce loan repayment programs.
Sec. 5204. Public health workforce recruitment and retention programs.
Sec. 5205. Allied health workforce recruitment and retention programs.
Sec. 5206. Grants for State and local programs.
Sec. 5207. Funding for National Health Service Corps.
Sec. 5208. Nurse-managed health clinics.
Sec. 5209. Elimination of cap on commissioned corps.
Sec. 5210. Establishing a Ready Reserve Corps.
Subtitle D–Enhancing Health Care Workforce Education and Training

See the Patient Protection Affordable Care Act, page 1312:

http://frontpage.americandaughter.com/


2,833 posted on 03/26/2010 12:53:08 PM PDT by JustPiper (Lemme Show You Where It's At ~States that Say "No" To Health Care Reform~)
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To: JustPiper

Is this the civilian security force that has scared the crap out of me since he announced it on the campaign trail??


2,834 posted on 03/26/2010 12:57:57 PM PDT by azishot (J.D. Hayworth...U.S. Senator FOR Arizona...http://www.jdforsenate.com/)
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To: JustPiper

Let’s take our country back!!


2,835 posted on 03/26/2010 1:01:40 PM PDT by blackie
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To: JustPiper

Good stuff, I passed it on!


2,836 posted on 03/26/2010 1:15:01 PM PDT by blackie
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To: SeattleBruce

“I sure wish Sarah Palin would reconsider her endorsement of Juan.”

She is on Fox News every hour all day with Mr. & Mrs. McCain


2,837 posted on 03/26/2010 1:20:37 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: JustPiper

No nO No this is not a private military army by any means...they are armed with medicine...though I know many are creating hysteria about it..and he could move it toward that. But it isn’t nor intended as a private army. Notice even in the post the number of times Health and nursing is mentioned. It’s to send out in emergency arenas.


2,838 posted on 03/26/2010 2:03:16 PM PDT by caww
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To: Quix; Whenifhow; BurbankKarl; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; ...
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Interesting, and scary information on Coast-to-Coast about foreign banks, etc. Coast-to-Coast isn't always tinfoil time; even a blind Squirrel finds an Acorn once in a while.

YouTube - 10:43 minutes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfW9ubP0wYo

[Thanks whenifhow and Quix.]

2,839 posted on 03/26/2010 2:03:34 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT

If we’re not there yet, we are well on the way.


2,840 posted on 03/26/2010 2:34:05 PM PDT by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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