Posted on 01/24/2010 12:26:43 PM PST by ColdOne
Our message is clear: We are planting here, we will stay here, we will build here, this place will be an inseparable part of the State of Israel for eternity," Netanyahu said in the Gush Etzion enclave.
Speaking after meeting U.S. President Barack Obama's Middle East envoy in Jerusalem, Netanyahu vowed Israel would also keep its two biggest West Bank settlements, Maale Adumim and Ariel.
His comments came as no surprise to the Palestinians, who were put on notice by
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INDEED.
THX.
My goodness, kind words towards me here.
Thank you.
The path was set a long time ago: to be good with God one must accept Christ.
Theere is no parallel path accorded to those who reject Christ.
If the Iranian uprisings fail to overthrow the mullahcracy, Israel will act to behead that regime, and not worry for some time about the nuclear weapons program there. Right now Israel is waiting this out, to see if Hitler Jr (Ahmedeadman) is overthrown, or will manage to cling to power. My guess is, he will not be overthrown, and will come through the current crisis stronger than ever.
Also, I would guess that Israel will kill the sorry S.O.B. when he ventures out of Iran on some diplomatic trip. The plane carrying him will simply be shot right out of the sky and drop unremarked into the ocean. The entire Israeli attack squadron will return unscathed. If something goes wrong (if the enroute midair refueling fails for some reason, for example), the squadron will still successfully carry out their mission, and ditch in a prearranged location to be rescued by one or more Israeli subs.
The Saudis will supply some of the necessary intel to enable the Israelis to make the hit.
Removal of a hostile regime in Iran is a necessity to avoid a multifront war and internal uprising by Hamas, Fatah, Hizbollah, Syria, and what passes for the Lebanese army. I have confidence in the Israelis’ ability to defeat their foes, even if it proves terribly costly in lives and treasure.
The way the alliances have shaken out puts a neutral Jordan as a wedge along the eastern frontier of Israel; the Saudis are beset in the south and east by various Shiite groups funded by Iran, and Egypt has been sitting on a longterm buildup of other jihadist terror groups for decades (smart move, Sadat, letting your eventual killers out of prison to balance the hardcore Nasserites), so neither will fire a shot against or tolerate much nonsense along their common borders with Israel.
Turkey and Syria had been continually at each other’s throats (one pretext used by Syria was the Turkish dams on the Euphrates and its tributaries, which largely originate in Turkish territory) but have basically joined forces with Iran (and its proxies in Lebanon); Iraq is in a vise now, and will be in joint talks with those three as soon as US troops have completely left, if not before then.
The Russians are playing all sides, which is a nice safe way to come out on top no matter who wins.
The nest of vipers known as Saudi Arabia has helped spawn a worldwide jihadist movement without any official sponsorship but with the full knowledge of what Ariel Sharon once referred to as “those 3000 corrupt princes”. They’re in bed with the Russians regarding the jihadist groups operating in ever-greater numbers inside Russia’s perennial enemy China.
If the Taliban / al-Qaeda authority links up with Iran (geographically), it’ll be the beginning of the end of Saudi influence in Central Asia, and they know that too.
For that matter, if Iran’s influence becomes dominant among the various rag-tag tribes without flags in the ethnic Pollock painting that is Afghanistan, Pakistan, and various other ‘stans now in turmoil, I would look toward a major power shift when Ahmednutjob (if he’s NOT bumped off by Israel) engineers a major rapprochement with India. It would be a huge coup for India, since its archenemy China has made a lot of inroads over the past thirty or more years, helping the Pakis with their Bomb, building Iran’s communications infrastructure and working/training in its petroleum industry.
Russia would not care who runs the jihadist activity inside China, so out the Saudis would go.
India grows stronger as Pakistan disintegrates, and its only long-term worry is who controls the Paki atomic stockpile. India’s excellent diplomatic relations and military connections with Israel continue to grow. Naturally that could be threatened the instant Iran and India share a rice buffet and sign trade and military cooperation agreements. Among those agreements would be arrangements to secretly cooperate in the dismantling of Pakistan, and continued fragmentation of the rest of Central Asia.
Henry Kissinger and Anwar Sadat used the October 1973 “Yom Kippur” war to simultaneously end conventional warfare against Israel for the foreseeable, as well as to basically eject the Soviets from significant influence in the OPEC countries.
At that time, and starting with the OPEC embargo, Saudi Arabia began its political ascent as well as its serious campaign to spread Islamic rule throughout the Earth — but learned a little history lesson (and not very well did it learn) about how much unity there is in the Islamic world. This was most obvious when the Shah was overthrown in Iran, but Saddam’s stupid miscalculation (the eight year Iran-Iraq war, which cost 100s of 1000s of lives on both sides) and turncoat behavior (not one but two invasions of Kuwait, the latter one being far better known) after having been supported by the Saudis (who could not have been in favor of his precipitous action) and Kuwaitis during the Iran debacle.
It isn’t a coincidence that the Russians and Arabs dismembered the ever-unstable Afghanistan and fought over it for years until the Russians turned tail — and that the battle over it was tied to petroleum development in Central Asia, a restive Islamic population then under Soviet rule, and the overthrow of the Shah.
Even Obama knows that Afghanistan can’t be abandoned — not least because Obama serves the interests of his Saudi masters. And it’s not a coincidence that his choice of VP has spent a few decades wearing a dog collar and eating out of a bowl served up by the Iranian mullahcracy — Obama has pressed for direct negotiations without condition with the Iranian regime.
They weren’t fooled.
Neither are the Israelis.
The Turks have the second largest army in Europe (after Russia’s) and believe they can cope with Iran’s armed forces (and I believe they’re dead wrong; Iran’s army is IMHO the most underrated in the region at least), but seek cooperation for both idealogical reasons and common territorial ambitions (partition of Iraq, or at the least, cooperation in dealing with the Kurds).
The Turks also don’t have any interest in the disintegration of Syria, the prospects for which have been the driving force behind Syria’s lesser-of-two-equals relationship with Iran. Syria got kicked out of Lebanon due to Iranian proxy terrorist activity (Syrian nationals on vacation or on military leaves and whatnot were getting murdered) over a period of some years, and of course the abortive Lebanese independence movement. Syria’s last few assassinations of Lebanese politicians were massively stupid missteps, and led to the loss of an occupied neighboring country that had been a source of revenue.
Turkey and Iran will eventually come to blows, but it will be some years from now. Turkey doesn’t want Syria to become another fragmented failed state, and wants a buffer between itself and the mess that is Lebanon. The prospect of an independent Kurdistan — part of which would be carved out of Syria, Turkey, and Iran, all of which have at least some Kurdish enclaves contiguous with the autonomous Kurdish region in northern Iraq — doesn’t thrill Istanbul.
All this will unfold over years, more than a decade probably.
A good time for Israel to rub out Ahmedinijad would be while he’s on the way to meet with the government of India. But there is no bad time to do it.
I think that’s the best analysis I’ve read anywhere.
I think you would do well to put it in it’s own thread.
Please do so and let me know.
I’ll ping my END TIMES list.
Great job.
Thanks. Very perceptive, imho.
Time will tell, for sure!
However,
I do suspect that things are going to be compressed into a much shorter time . . . and . . . sadly for millions . . . much more dramatic than your scenarios.
I hope I’m wrong and you are right.
Thanks Quix.
I also neglected to mention (thought about it, got distracted and forgot) the recent fly in the ointment, which consists of India’s and China’s joint repudiation of carbon caps and other nonsense at the Copenhagen conference. Israel has resold some US military technology to China in the past, and all things considered, they have more in common with each other than with the crazy Muzzie despotates and terrorist groups. It can’t be hopeful to China that its former ally, Pakistan, is disintegrating. Pakistan represented one of the few successes China had in trying to break the Soviet policy of containment (analogous to US policy toward the USSR) of China, and rapprochement with India will probably be the big story, rather than an Iranian-Indian deal.
Thanks for the ping!
Interesting.
thanks.
When the last shot has been fired and the dust settles, Israel will occupy every square inch thatr God promised them.Jersalem is where Jesus will rule from David’s throne for a thousand years.
It is what the Bible says. Whether you subscribe to it or not is irrlevant.
Wrong. That won’t happen.
You are wrong.
About a great many things.
That is different than "chosen".
There is your opinion. Then we have God telling Israel:
"For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession." (Deut. 7:6)
So, as much as you want to cling to your hate, God has different plans for His people.
Israel, as a nation, will not be damned, but will be brought back to God.
No matter what you would like to see happen to them.
Please point out any indications of this "hate" and I shall be happy to address them.
Or are you just making things up to suit your agenda?
Just a thought, but Israel pays a terrible price for it's disobedience, which is actually a blessing for us. God has provided for our salvation by grace through faith and during this time that we are being brought into Jesus' flock they are not because of their disbelief. It is the Tribulation that ultimately opens their eyes. Amillenialists miss this point because of their belief we have replaced Israel and God is done with them.
That's idolatry.
Say to the current residents of Israel, “You all need to accept Christ!”.
See how they react.
They reject Christ.
They can change that if they want to, but most will clearly communicate that they do not want to.
No problem.
The Jews, who do not accept Christ, and according to John 14:6 cannot enter heaven, can not therefor be His "chosen people".
It just torques me to see the Jews, who do NOT accept Christ, flouted as the "chosen people"
Well, they had just better not come around ME spouting that “chosen people” malarkey when they fail to accept Christ.
Scripture records that the 144,000 Jews will be singing a song no others can sing.
The Macarena takes practice, but in the end.. anyone can sing it.
Jews reject Jesus.
Need there be any more said than that?
I'm not about to run up to anyone who rejects Jesus and call them "God's chosen" or assume they are saved.
So Israel, in rejecting Christ, is damned.
That is different than "chosen".
To reject the clear, unambiguous Scripture where God leaves no doubt whatsoever that the Jews are His chosen people, the people through whom He brought forth our Savior, takes hatred. There is no other way someone would take such a foolish risk.
And you know what? It's nobody's business what the Jews do with Jesus Christ and it's nobody's place to hate them because of what one may think of the current, short-lived, spiritual condition of the Jewish people. If it wasn't for the Jews, we wouldn't have Jesus Christ. I know you like to discard Scripture you don't like, but unfortunately there is the little piece about God cursing those who curse the Jews. That applies to everyone and God means what He says.
The Jews are God's business, and God's business alone and never did He give anyone the authority to judge the Jewish people based on bias and hatred. They are His chosen people. It's as simple as that, and it's His place, not any human being's, to deal with them.
They are not going to be damned, they're going to be brought back to God and saved.
Whether you like it or not.
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