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12/11/2009 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 12/11/2009 5:57:16 PM PST by Jim Robinson

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To: restornu
The Holy Ghost is manifested to men on the earth both as the power of the Holy Ghost and as the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Such a thorough explanation of the LDS teaching about the Holy Ghost; yet we've not gotten even a tiny bit of knowledge about what JS learned to be UNTRUE about PRESBYTERIANism...

(So sad...)

2,741 posted on 12/15/2009 7:24:38 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu

Yes, I understand that. But that doesn’t change 1) that you still have no way of knowing that it WAS the Holy Ghost, and 2) that an “unworthy” LDS person “loses” the “gift”, which makes God and indian giver.

The only time I heard that the HG “stopped by for a visit” was the “burning in the bosom” talked about in Moroni’s promise. A “promise” that is based on a circular logic and therefore false.

If you pray about the BOM, and don’t get a “burning in the bosom, the there MUST be something wrong with you, either you didn’t pray sincerely, or you didn’t have “real” faith in Christ. And the Mishies keep telling you exactly what you will feel. So a person, who doesn’t get the “burning”, will keep praying until they feel what they are supposed to feel.

Standard brainwashing tactic.


2,742 posted on 12/15/2009 7:27:09 PM PST by reaganaut (ex-Mormon now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: Elsie

OH MY!!!! I had never seen the bulge one before!


2,743 posted on 12/15/2009 7:28:48 PM PST by reaganaut (ex-Mormon now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: restornu

The power can come upon one before baptism, and is the convincing witness that the gospel is true.
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You know the drill by now

SCRIPTURE !!!!

From The Bible, please...


2,744 posted on 12/15/2009 7:32:36 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Elsie
John 14

12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Well the Church is still togather!

2,745 posted on 12/15/2009 7:32:40 PM PST by restornu (Atonement; Christ doesnt just make up the difference. He makes all the difference. ~ Brad Wilcox)
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To: restornu

More powerful than that which is available before baptism, it acts as a cleansing agent to purify a person and sanctify him from all sin.
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SCRIPTURE !!!!

That the Holy Ghost is sent to do that...

From The Bible, please...


2,746 posted on 12/15/2009 7:35:32 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu; Elsie

Well the Church is still togather!

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We never said Satan didn’t have ANY power, of course he could keep his pet (the LDS church) around for a couple of hundred years.

But Christ has ALL power, and the Morg won’t stand forever.


2,747 posted on 12/15/2009 7:36:27 PM PST by reaganaut (ex-Mormon now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: restornu

It gives one a testimony of Jesus Christ and of his work and the work of his servants upon the earth.
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And yet the Holy Ghost doesnt mention Joey Smith

or the book of mormon

or the so called restoration of anything...

or of dead dunking temple work...


2,748 posted on 12/15/2009 7:38:10 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

Well the Church is still togather!
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Great aint it ???

Its been that way for 2000 years...

Right here on Earth where Jesus left her...


2,749 posted on 12/15/2009 7:40:50 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you Jim...my power is dry! Free Republic helps me get through the day & MSM & with all their hype! God Bless America!


2,750 posted on 12/15/2009 7:41:50 PM PST by Rexann
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To: Tennessee Nana; All

The power can come upon one before baptism, and is the convincing witness that the gospel is true.

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1 Thes. 1: 5
5 For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake.

You folks can deny and yammer all ya want!

...but to those who study the scripture earnestly will be greatly reward to understand more than the Tradition of Men ever allowed.

The Tradition of Men program the elevator to only to go to certain floors of the mind.

But when one is contrite and sincere with the Lord the Holy Spirit one is able to receive more than any learned Tradition!


2,751 posted on 12/15/2009 7:47:38 PM PST by restornu (Atonement; Christ doesnt just make up the difference. He makes all the difference. ~ Brad Wilcox)
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To: Tennessee Nana

you mean the mainstream have been fracture for 2000


2,752 posted on 12/15/2009 7:49:08 PM PST by restornu (Atonement; Christ doesnt just make up the difference. He makes all the difference. ~ Brad Wilcox)
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To: WondrousCreation; metmom
Nothing is more "foul-mouthed" then the denigration of the Lord and his Creation

Amen...the denigration of his people was also a regular occurence here by many evos, for many years, still some going on today apparently.

The Bible is quite clear on how such people should be dealt with

The Book of Jude spells it out very clearly. One example:

10 But these people scoff at things they do not understand. Like unthinking animals, they do whatever their instincts tell them, and so they bring about their own destruction. 11 What sorrow awaits them!

NewLand, I for one am glad you're here to help Jim Robinson identify these sleaze-balls, as you accurately state, to make FreeRepublic (and hence America and the Internet) a better place.

Many thanks WondrousCreation, certainly was not looking for that but you gave me further encouragement...even a Casablanca moment...i.e. when Victor Laslo (Paul Heinreid) tells Rick (Humphrey Bogart) "welcome back to the fight".

JimRob and team deserve the credit, they have kept FR a safe haven for loyal conservatives thru thick and thin for a dozen years now.

No lowly, small gang of evo-thugs is going to prevent FR from continuing to be the shining light of conservatism that it is.

2,753 posted on 12/15/2009 7:50:35 PM PST by NewLand (We shall all hang together or most assuredly we will all hang separately)
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To: eyedigress

“It does not take a church. God exists, Satan exists, You exist. There is a reason.”

And I believe all that. It’s the part about turning over judgment on what is of God and what is not to JR that makes it sound like FR is a church in your eyes.


2,754 posted on 12/15/2009 7:52:13 PM PST by Grig
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To: restornu

...but to those who study the scripture earnestly will be greatly reward to understand more than the Tradition of Men ever allowed.

The Tradition of Men program the elevator to only to go to certain floors of the mind.

But when one is contrite and sincere with the Lord the Holy Spirit one is able to receive more than any learned Tradition!
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Exactly...

That tradition of Joey Smith and other men called mormonism is useless...

You cant find God that way...

Jesus said to Resty and the mormons, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man or woman comes to the Father except by me.” John 14:6


2,755 posted on 12/15/2009 7:53:13 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

Those mainstream LDS dont like the fLDS do they ???

Even though the fLDS obey Joey Smith while the minstream LDS in Salt lake follow the traditions of men...


2,756 posted on 12/15/2009 7:55:47 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

1 Thes. 1: 5
5 For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake.
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What do you think that means ???


2,757 posted on 12/15/2009 7:57:13 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: lumber1

Wrong thing to say about the founder of the site.

IATZ, I see.


2,758 posted on 12/15/2009 7:57:20 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wagglebee

He doesn’t need to leave anymore.


2,759 posted on 12/15/2009 7:58:00 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: restornu
Well the Church is still togather!

So are the MUSLIMs; and MJUCH longer, too!

Therefore they must be MORE RIGHT than MORMONS!!

2,760 posted on 12/15/2009 7:58:34 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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