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Jesus Christ's 'death certificate' found on Turin Shroud
The Telegraph ^ | 11/20/2009 | Nick Squires in Rome

Posted on 11/20/2009 8:28:10 PM PST by bruinbirdman

A Vatican researcher claims to have discovered Christ's 'death certificate' on the Turin Shroud.

The historian and researcher at the secret Vatican archive said she has found the words "Jesus Nazarene" on the shroud, proving it was the linen cloth which was wrapped around Christ's body.


Computer analysis of photographs of the shroud revealed extremely faint words

She said computer analysis of photographs of the shroud revealed extremely faint words written in Greek, Aramaic and Latin which attested to its authenticity.

Her claim was immediately contested by scholars who said that radiocarbon dating tests in 1988 showed the shroud to be a medieval forgery.

Dr Frale asserts in a new book, The Shroud of Jesus the Nazarene, that computer enhancement enabled her to detect the archaic script, which appears on various parts of the material.

She suggested that it was written by low-ranking Roman officials or mortuary clerks on a scroll or piece of papyrus to identify Christ's corpse. Such a document would have enabled the relatives of a dead person to retrieve a body from a communal morgue, she suggested.

It would have been attached to the corpse with a flour-based glue and the ink could have seeped through into the cloth below, leaving a faint imprint.

Scholars first noticed that there was writing on the shroud in 1978 but when the radiocarbon tests a decade later suggested that the shroud was a forgery, historians lost interest in the script, Dr Frale said.

She claimed she had been able to decipher a jumble of phrases written in three languages, including the Greek words (I)esou(s) Nnazarennos, or Jesus the Nazarene, and (T)iber(iou), which she interprets as Tiberius, the Roman emperor at the time of Christ's crucifixion.

The text also mentions that the man who was

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1 posted on 11/20/2009 8:28:10 PM PST by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman

The researcher is an official at the Vatican archives.


2 posted on 11/20/2009 8:30:53 PM PST by Dementio
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To: bruinbirdman

I’d like to see the words.


3 posted on 11/20/2009 8:30:58 PM PST by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: bruinbirdman; Fred Nerks; LucyT

Did they find any US presidential certificates?


4 posted on 11/20/2009 8:31:09 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA))
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To: bruinbirdman

I figured it would say “Born in Hawaii”


5 posted on 11/20/2009 8:32:19 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Candor7

LOL


6 posted on 11/20/2009 8:33:59 PM PST by ponygirl ("I can see the Olympic Stadium from my house!" - Barack Obama)
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To: bruinbirdman

The radiocarbon “dating” was a farce. A cabal of fake scientists determined to find what they wanted to find.

It remains to be seen whether this new claim is true or not.


7 posted on 11/20/2009 8:33:59 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Candor7

Bingo. I trust this far more than I would a 47 year old birth certificate from Hawaii.


8 posted on 11/20/2009 8:34:34 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Dementio

Why would the words be on the shroud? Those words were on the cross above his head..right?


9 posted on 11/20/2009 8:40:59 PM PST by Freddd (CNN is not credible.)
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To: Freddd

The shroud would have been on him, after he was taken down, right?


10 posted on 11/20/2009 8:41:48 PM PST by Freddd (CNN is not credible.)
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To: Cicero

I agree with you. I have no idea if the shroud is genuine or not but when I read about the way the test was conducted it was obviously done with a pre-determined outcome.

Actually I doubt it really is Christ’s burial shroud but would not completely rule it out either.


11 posted on 11/20/2009 8:43:11 PM PST by yarddog
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping


12 posted on 11/20/2009 8:46:20 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: Alamo-Girl; albee; AnalogReigns; AnAmericanMother; Angelas; AniGrrl; annalex; annyokie; ...
Another posting on the "Jesus Death Certificate on the Shroud" story PING!

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13 posted on 11/20/2009 8:47:04 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: bruinbirdman

Does it matter?

We worship a risen Christ!


14 posted on 11/20/2009 8:48:43 PM PST by right way right
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The word supposedly say:
" “In the year 16 of the reign of the Emperor Tiberius Jesus the Nazarene, taken down in the early evening after having been condemned to death by a Roman judge because he was found guilty by a Hebrew authority, is hereby sent for burial with the obligation of being consigned to his family only after one full year”. It ends “signed by”
All of this is supposedly written in Armaic, Greek, and Latin... frankly, I an skeptical. Nothing like this has been seen prior to this in all the research done on the Shroud before this...
15 posted on 11/20/2009 8:50:56 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Freddd

The question isn’t whether the words are there or not, but when were they written and by whom.


16 posted on 11/20/2009 8:56:00 PM PST by Dementio
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To: Candor7

How about some grass stains from the knoll?


17 posted on 11/20/2009 8:56:21 PM PST by PaleoBob
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More beautiful news. Thanks..


18 posted on 11/20/2009 8:57:52 PM PST by NoRedTape
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To: Candor7

No Presidential documents, but they did find a date on the Latin Inscription - “Anno Domini XXXIII.”


19 posted on 11/20/2009 8:59:45 PM PST by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: bruinbirdman

This is great for the unbeliever...now they haven’t an excuse.


20 posted on 11/20/2009 9:02:32 PM PST by hope
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