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Edmunds.com Fights Back After White House Attack
The Business Insider ^ | 10/20/09

Posted on 10/30/2009 6:47:35 AM PDT by FromLori

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To: gathersnomoss

The $1500 eco-fridge will become the $3000-5000 dollar taxpayer subsisdized eco-fridge.


41 posted on 10/30/2009 8:49:59 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: GeronL

Lashing out is the shitcago way. Chicago has always been a crooked den of snakes and previouysly Americans had enough good sense to not allow the machine to spread further than IL.


42 posted on 10/30/2009 8:51:51 AM PDT by dusttoyou (libs are all wee wee'd up and no place to go)
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To: FromLori
I get Glenn Beck being on the White House shit list but Edmonds automotive? This shows me 0bama is squandering my tax dollars on useless White House staff. Who have no real work to do
43 posted on 10/30/2009 8:57:29 AM PDT by dennisw (Obama -- our very own loopy, leftist god-thing.)
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To: brownsfan
But they never learn. The Republicans, once in power, will behave as badly as the Democrats are now.

That's why we need to follow the NY23 lead and vote for the conservatives, regardless of what party they are in. Work our tails off trying to get conservatives nominated instead of RINOs, otherwise we will be no better off, this is apparent in the mouthings of McCain, Romney, Snow and the like. They want the same thing Bozo wants: The subjugation of the American people.

44 posted on 10/30/2009 9:41:17 AM PDT by calex59 (We want our constitution back, and we will get it back.)
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To: FromLori

The Obama administration showing us that it knows as much about the US auto industry as it does about running the country. Nada, nil, zilch - SQUAT!


45 posted on 10/30/2009 9:48:17 AM PDT by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: FromLori

It’s way worse than that. Ignore all the gas crap and just look at how the stupid car buyer got taken to the cleaners:

If you traded in a clunker worth $3500, you get $4500 off for an apparent “savings” of $1000.

However, you have to pay taxes on the $4500 come April 15th (something that no auto dealer will tell you). If you are in the 30% tax bracket, you will pay $1350 on that $4500.

So, rather than save $1000, you actually pay an extra $350 to the Feds. In addition, you traded in a car that was most likely paid for. Now you have 4 or 5 years of payments on a car that you did not need, that was costing you less to run than the payments that you will now be making.

But wait; it gets even better: you also got ripped off by the dealer. For example, every dealer here in LA was selling the Ford Focus with all the goodies, including A/C, auto transmission, power windows, etc for $12,500 the month before the “cash for clunkers” program started.

When “cash for clunkers” came along, they stopped discounting them and instead sold them at the list price of $15,500. So, you paid $3000 more than you would have the month before... (Honda, Toyota, and Kia played the same list price game that Ford and Chevy did).

So let’s do the final tally here:

You traded in a car worth: $3500
You got a discount of: $4500


Net so far +$1000
But you have to pay: $1350 in taxes on the $4500

Net so far: -$350
And you paid: $3000 more than the car was selling for the month before

Net -$3350

We could also add in the additional taxes (sales tax, state tax, etc.) on the extra $3000 that you paid for the car, along with the 5 years of interest on the car loan, but let’s just stop here.

So who actually made out on the deal? The feds collected taxes on the car along with taxes on the $4500 they “gave” you. The car dealers made an extra $3000 or more on every car they sold along with the kickbacks from the manufacturers and the loan companies. The manufacturers got to dump lots of cars they could not give away the month before. And the poor, stupid consumer maybe got saddled with even more debt that they cannot afford.

Obama and his band of merry men convinced Joe consumer that he was getting $4500 in “free” money from the “government” when in fact, Joe was giving away his $3500 car and paying an additional $3350 for the privilege.

Think this was stupid for those who were crazy enough to swallow this wonderful scheme?

Just wait until we get health care with no additional costs over what most of us now pay for health insurance and the best medical care in the world. Think that scheme might be designed by the same people who came up with “Cash for Clunkers?”


46 posted on 10/30/2009 10:54:43 AM PDT by robjna
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To: Buckeye McFrog

*I guess if you ran an op-ed mildy critical of Barry in the Eephus County Farmer’s Reporter, Pennysaver and Gazette, that someone in the White House war room is going to find it and start unloading on you.

I predict this is going to backfire big-time. Americans have no stomach for petty political bullying 24/7/365*

Yet, this is the same course of action many here suggested that the previous administration should take in regards to its critics.


47 posted on 10/30/2009 11:21:22 AM PDT by j-damn
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