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Wolf Demands An Apology, Chesler Won’t Back Down
Pajamas Media ^ | Sept. 2 | Phyllis Chesler

Posted on 09/02/2009 2:55:04 PM PDT by AJKauf

It seems that Naomi Wolf is quite upset by what I’ve written yesterday. She has posted a comment at my blog, written to me privately (below), left a message in my office and written to at least one website that linked to my blog. I am answering her here.

Dear Naomi:

Hello and I hope you are well too. My piece is not a personal attack. Please don’t take it as such. It is a political and intellectual critique of what you wrote.... There are no “terrible inaccuracies” in what I’ve written or in how I’ve conveyed the general tenor of your article. Your demand that I print a “correction” and issue an “apology” is uncalled for as is your offer to go over my mistakes with me, point by point, on the phone or in a debate. I dare say, this last bit is a wee bit arrogant and frightening.

One woman’s “mistake” is another woman’s “opinion.”

I now understand that you’ve left a phone message in my office, posted a letter at my blogsite at Pajamas Media, written to me privately, and also written to Frontpage Magazine which has linked to my piece today.

Are you going to track down every site that linked to this piece as well?

(Excerpt) Read more at pajamasmedia.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: naomiwolf

1 posted on 09/02/2009 2:55:05 PM PDT by AJKauf
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To: AJKauf

Good on You.
applause applause applause


2 posted on 09/02/2009 3:00:42 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: AJKauf

What did she say in the first place that riled up Wolf?


3 posted on 09/02/2009 3:04:44 PM PDT by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: Bartholomew Roberts

I think she tore into Naomi Wolf for claiming that Muslim women were strong, empowered feminists underneath their burkhas.


4 posted on 09/02/2009 3:15:21 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: AJKauf

Narcissist Naomi can’t take what she dishes out, can she.


5 posted on 09/02/2009 3:29:47 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://aroodawakening.tv)
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To: AJKauf

Game, set, match. Chesler.


6 posted on 09/02/2009 3:40:13 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: AJKauf
...my piece on Muslim feminism, which is filled with terrible inaccuracies...

I find here some truth in what Naomi says.

7 posted on 09/02/2009 3:42:50 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: AJKauf

Me-owww!

Chesler wiped the floor with young Naomi.


8 posted on 09/02/2009 3:43:40 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: AJKauf
Wolfe's piece was unusually moronic even for her. The upshot was that Muslim women love their chadors and underneath are really sexually liberated women wearing Victoria's Secret lingerie. Her claim, not my paraphrase. The chador protects them from the prying glances of those awful men, you see.

She deserved the thrashing she got, IMHO.

9 posted on 09/02/2009 3:54:25 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Bartholomew Roberts

Now that Wolf is no longer the doe-eyed ingenue of yesteryear, she sees the advantage of not being on view at all times. A Westerner, “playing” Muslim-dress up, Wolf claims that hiding in plain view gave her “a novel sense of calm and serenity. I felt, yes, in certain ways, free.” In addition, Wolf believes that the marital sex is hotter when women “cover” and reveal their faces and bodies only to their husbands.
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Well, what can I say? Here’s a few things.

Most Muslim girls and women are not given a choice about wearing the chador, burqa, abaya, niqab, jilbab, or hijab (headscarf), and those who resist are beaten, threatened with death, arrested, caned or lashed, jailed, or honor murdered by their own families. Is Wolfe thoroughly unfamiliar with the news coming out of Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Sudan on these very subjects? Has she forgotten the tragic, fiery deaths of those schoolgirls in Saudi Arabia who, in trying to flee their burning schoolhouse, were improperly veiled and who were beaten back by the all-powerful Saudi Morality Police?
* * *
Being veiled and obedient does not save a Muslim girl or woman from being incested, battered, stalked, gang-raped, or maritally raped nor does it stop her husband from taking multiple wives and girlfriends or from frequenting brothels. A fully “covered” girl-child, anywhere between the ages of 10-15, may still be forced into an arranged marriage, perhaps with her first cousin, perhaps with a man old enough to be her grandfather, and she is not allowed to leave him, not even if he beats her black and blue every single day.


10 posted on 09/02/2009 3:56:57 PM PDT by frithguild (Can I drill your head now?)
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To: Billthedrill

What you don’t understand is that Wolfe is just reflecting the shift in Feminist thought. Because white men are evil, anything that is not done by white men (even if it involves female oppression) is good. Wearing a burka is the modern equivalent of burning your bra.


11 posted on 09/02/2009 4:04:06 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: AJKauf

Looked up Wolf, as I’d never heard of her. Read about two paragraphs and determined she’s the kind of woman you’d rather avoid.
From what I read, she lives in her own little world, and constructs verbose arguments that have nothing to do with reality. I’ve run into many such types on college campuses.


12 posted on 09/02/2009 4:06:36 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: rbg81
You're correct, and it goes further than that. Wolfe would rather cling to her dogma that everything in the world that is wrong is men's fault than to see her nominal sisters in the Muslim world liberated. She knows perfectly well that in Afghanistan, for example, they were beaten and killed for trying to learn to read. She'd rather it stay that way than to be forced to reconsider her tidy little worldview.

There is something much darker going on here than multiculturalism. Wolfe deserved to get her butt handed to her and she did.

13 posted on 09/02/2009 4:18:54 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: AJKauf

Naomi is a psychiatric case.

Dr. Chesler is a recovering liberal mugged by reality and an open mind.

You decide.


14 posted on 09/02/2009 4:23:14 PM PDT by neocon1984
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To: AJKauf

Pass the popcorn BUMP


15 posted on 09/02/2009 4:23:49 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Ask His forgiveness. Don't wait.)
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To: Billthedrill

Part of it is elitism too. Wolfe is perfectly fine with women suffering in the Third World as long as her (and her ilk) get cradle-to-grave socialism in the USA.


16 posted on 09/02/2009 4:42:39 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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