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State declares Obama birth certificate real, again
Wash Post ^ | 7/27/09 | staff

Posted on 07/27/2009 7:03:39 PM PDT by pissant

HONOLULU -- State officials again are confirming that President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Monday she has seen the original birth records that verify Obama was born in Hawaii, and is a "natural-born American citizen."

Fukino made the announcement in hopes of ending any lingering rumors about Obama's citizenship. She issued a similar press release Oct. 31.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: barrysoetoro; birthcertificate; certifigate; larrysinclairslover; obama; obamatruthfile; obroma
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To: Frantzie

There is zero evidence that contradicts her statement and a lot of evidence confirming what she has asserted, that Obama is on record as being born in Hawaii, such as:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advertiser0000.gif

Yes, case closed for those living in real world.

For those wanting to believe in a false conspiracy theory, nothing will ever shake their determined fact-free belief.


521 posted on 07/28/2009 2:30:17 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: nufsed

His birth hospital was Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children in Honolulu. Multiple family members have stated that.


522 posted on 07/28/2009 2:31:29 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: WOSG

That’s very simple to answer. Fukino should have kept her trap shut and now has damaged her credibility by her actions.


523 posted on 07/28/2009 2:33:25 PM PDT by Salthawk
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To: markomalley

A friend and I were chatting about this today and here’s the thing I don’t get.

Barry’s Dad married his mom when he was already married to another woman in Kenya ( or out of the country anyway ) which would make the marriage to his mother invalid in HI.

So as we cipher it that would mean the nationality of his father was irrelevant since the mother was a citizen.

Which is not to say he isn’t hiding something just that figuring out the precise details is not simple.


524 posted on 07/28/2009 2:34:11 PM PDT by lucias_clay (Its times like this I'm glad I'm a whig.)
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To: WOSG
Then, maybe she should keep her mouth shut.

It looks like someone has the goods on Obama, whether the Russians or Israel. They have likely asked him to dance to their tune or his administration goes down in smoke. The administration is in panic mode at the moment and its fun to watch.

Keep an eye on Biden and Hillary. Things are starting to move...

525 posted on 07/28/2009 2:37:08 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: WOSG
We are left with ONLY TWO POSSIBILITIES:
1) Barack Obama’s birth records show him being born in Hawaii.

2) There has been a MASSIVE CONSPIRACY that includes explicit public forgeries and lies by the Obama campaign, multiple journalists, and the State of Hawaii records office, including the above Ms Fukino.

It’s one or the other, no in between.


I disagree. It does not have to be a MASSIVE CONSPRIACY. It can easily be a fraud perpretated at the time the Certificate of Live Birth was filed with Vital Statistics by whomever filled out the paperwork.

There is quite a bit of reason (IMO, of course) to disbelieve the records since the address listed in both two alleged birth announcements are likely false.

Dr. Fukino is not affirming that any of the information is accurate on the BC that she viewed. She is merely affirming that the information that is on it says he was born in Hawaii. Assuming the announcements shown on the internet are truly from 1961 publications, then the original BC likely had fraudulent information listed. If one piece (the address) of the information is fraudulent, how many more pieces of that original BC are?
526 posted on 07/28/2009 2:37:54 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: April Lexington; WOSG

Either she’s a liar or the final draft of a forged document is now in place.
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“On October 31, 2008, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii Department of Health, released a statement verifying that Barack Obama’s birth certificate was on file in their records. However, despite what you might have heard, she did not verify that he was born in Hawaii. And, she did not verify that the certificate on file in Hawaii matches the “COLB” pictured on Obama’s site and at FactCheck. “

http://24ahead.com/dr-chiyome-fukino-responds-my-obama-birth-certificate-questi

^ That was posted in December.


527 posted on 07/28/2009 2:43:38 PM PDT by Canedawg ( "Government cant make you happy or healthy or wealthy or wise." - S. Palin)
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To: WOSG
Ok. Let's assume for a moment that the birthers are a side show. What is your strategy to derail Obama? How are we interfering with your SPECIFIC efforts? I don't think you have a plan.Do you have a plan? If your plan is better than our plan, I'll stand down... Show me your plan or show me the birth certificate!
528 posted on 07/28/2009 2:48:10 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: WOSG

Are your posts meant to be satire or are you a little thick? The doctor working for the state has as much credibility as ACORN. You know very little about Hawaii.


529 posted on 07/28/2009 2:51:08 PM PDT by Frantzie (Obama DeathCare - Sending Seniors to the Death Camps. Obama = Racist Dope)
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To: WOSG

I have reson to believe that OB knows what’s on his birth certificate. You can take care of your aunt.


530 posted on 07/28/2009 2:56:54 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, passport and school records.)
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To: Canedawg

She earlier (Nov 1, 2008) only implicitly and not explicitly validated his birth in Hawaii. She vouched for his records though. Birthers didnt take the hint.

So today she finally made the confirmation that a birther tried to get her to make last December, to explicitly confirm that he was born in Hawaii.. She apparently has just gotten sick and tired of all the questions and now has made the clearest declaration she can make without contravention of Obama’s confidential records.

There is no contradiction except to those trying to create a gotcha out of thin air.

Real world: Evidence shows Obama was born in Honolulu.
BirtherWorld: Any evidence of his being born in Honolulu is lies, forgeries and deception, including official documents and state officials on the record and newspaper records, but we will gullibly believe unsourced 3rd hand stories and suppositions instead.


531 posted on 07/28/2009 3:17:51 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: April Lexington

Yes, the birthers are a sideshow and I’m sure you already know that.
Yes, there are plans to really derail Obama and the are being executed on an ongoing basis. See my freepmail for more.


532 posted on 07/28/2009 3:25:16 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: WOSG

“Real world: Evidence shows...”
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United States Court of Law Evidence world:

Hearsay (an out of court statement offered to prove the truth of the matter) is inadmissible without an applicable exception, and the Best Evidence Rule is in effect(has not been met in your illusory world.)


533 posted on 07/28/2009 3:30:16 PM PDT by Canedawg ( "Government cant make you happy or healthy or wealthy or wise." - S. Palin)
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To: Girlene

“1) Barack Obama’s birth records show him being born in Hawaii.

2) There has been a MASSIVE CONSPIRACY that includes explicit public forgeries and lies by the Obama campaign, multiple journalists, and the State of Hawaii records office, including the above Ms Fukino.

It’s one or the other, no in between.”

“I disagree. It does not have to be a MASSIVE CONSPRIACY. It can easily be a fraud perpretated at the time the Certificate of Live Birth was filed with Vital Statistics by whomever filled out the paperwork.”

IF SO, THAT TAKES US TO #1:
- “Barack Obama’s birth records show him being born in Hawaii.”

So my point still stands.

“Dr. Fukino is not affirming that any of the information is accurate on the BC that she viewed. She is merely affirming that the information that is on it says he was born in Hawaii.”
- AGAIN, THAT TAKES US BACK TO #1. Other information on the BC is not relevent to the statement in #1.


534 posted on 07/28/2009 3:31:06 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: WOSG

“Claims that Obama wasnt born in Hawaii are now an official dead-end.” Um, your fanatical, obsessive defense of your obamessiah’s fraud removes the sand from under your proclamation.


535 posted on 07/28/2009 3:31:37 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Frantzie

“The doctor working for the state has as much credibility as ACORN. “

That’s ad hominem.

You are proving me right:
For those wanting to believe in a false conspiracy theory, nothing will ever shake their determined fact-free belief.


536 posted on 07/28/2009 3:32:11 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: Canedawg

“Hearsay (an out of court statement offered to prove the truth of the matter) is inadmissible without an applicable exception”

The entire birther conspiracy is built on a tissue of hearsay and supposition. Now you are really spoiling the party!


537 posted on 07/28/2009 3:34:18 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: WOSG

I am not proving you right. Obama has provided no proof.


538 posted on 07/28/2009 3:35:49 PM PDT by Frantzie (Obama DeathCare - Sending Seniors to the Death Camps. Obama = Racist Dope)
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To: Secret Agent Man
IF Fukimo has seen the Hawaiian birth certificate and it has no father listed for ‘father’, then Fukimo could be correct that Barry qualifies—according to the document Fukimo saw—as a natural born citizen because his mother was an American citizen and father is unknown. If Barry was fathered by a high school boy in Washington State and born in Canada and brought back to the U.S. and registered in Hawaii as an Hawaii because her mother claimed to be, Fukimo may be telling the truth as she understands it but the actually full vault records need to be scrutinized for obvious reasons of verifying Constitutional eligibility. Of course, if Barry were to allow the opening of such documents as I describe, he would not just be embarrassed by his lies, he would be criminally libel.
539 posted on 07/28/2009 3:37:37 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: April Lexington

“Then, maybe she should keep her mouth shut.”

Like I said, the birthers have her in a ‘damned-if-you-do damned-if-you-dont’ situation. They demand answers, so she states what she can ... then she’s attacked for it.

“The administration is in panic mode at the moment and its fun to watch.”
- He’s in a panic mode because ObamaCare will kill granny and Obama stupidly got involved in Gates arrest.


540 posted on 07/28/2009 3:37:48 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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