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Cutting bait (Steyn on Palin)
NRO ^ | 7/3/09 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 07/03/2009 10:57:15 PM PDT by pissant

With respect to many of the Palinologists below, I think they're getting way too hepatomantic over the entrails.

As a political move for anything other than the 2010 Senate race, today's announcement is a disaster. And I'm not sure it's a plus for the Senate - and, even if it were, the manner and timing suggest it was not a professionally planned event and therefore is unlikely to have any grand strategy behind it.

So Occam's Razor leaves us with: Who needs this?

In states far from the national spotlight, politics still attracts normal people. You're a mayor or a state senator or even the governor, but you lead a normal life. The local media are tough on you, but they know you, they live where you live, they're tough on the real you, not on some caricature cooked up by a malign alliance of late-night comics who'd never heard of you a week earlier and media grandees supposedly on your own side who pronounce you a "cancer".

Then suddenly you get the call from Washington. You know it'll mean Secret Service, and speechwriters, and minders vetting your wardrobe. But nobody said it would mean a mainstream network comedy host doing statutory rape gags about your 14-year old daughter. You've got a special-needs kid and a son in Iraq and a daughter who's given you your first grandchild in less than ideal circumstances. That would be enough for most of us. But the special-needs kid and the daughter and most everyone else you love are a national joke, and the PC enforcers are entirely cool with it.

Most of those who sneer at Sarah Palin have no desire to live her life. But why not try to - what's the word? - "empathize"? If you like Wasilla and hunting and snowmachining and moose stew and politics, is the last worth giving up everything else in the hopes that one day David Letterman and Maureen Dowd might decide Trig and Bristol and the rest are sufficiently non-risible to enable you to prosper in their world? And, putting aside the odds, would you really like to be the person you'd have to turn into under that scenario?

National office will dwindle down to the unhealthily singleminded (Clinton, Obama), the timeserving emirs of Incumbistan (Biden, McCain) and dynastic heirs (Bush). Our loss.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: careerendingmove; chickenlittles; democratswin; fedindictmentcoming; gopimplosion; marksteyn; palin; quitter; sarahbarraquitta; soroswins
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Guess this is one way of grabbing headlines back from Mark Sanford.
1 posted on 07/03/2009 10:57:16 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Great article....


2 posted on 07/03/2009 11:00:19 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: pissant

This is a good article.
And Steyn is right.
It’s time to cut bait on Sarah Palin as the future hope of the GOP, just as she’s cut bait on political life.
She’s not the Moses to lead us out of the desert.


3 posted on 07/03/2009 11:03:23 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: counterpunch

I never put any energy into hoping or thinking she’d be my gal for 2012 anyway.


4 posted on 07/03/2009 11:06:47 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

A voice of reason. Maybe she just screw younz! I love my family and I’m not willing to move from God’s country and sacrifice them to the gods of power and celebrity. Let the sheep fend for themselves.


5 posted on 07/03/2009 11:07:09 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: pissant
I fully agree with Mark Steyn's take, in fact, it parallels my post which came out with the news:

It is the explanation that makes the most sense, her family has been so battered by this process, by the unmitigated venom of the Democrat attacks against her, that they are simply withdrawing into their Alaskan reality. They never lived by the Beltway reality. They are just going home.


6 posted on 07/03/2009 11:07:57 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: counterpunch
just as she’s cut bait on political life.

Guess you listened to MSNBC's Mitchell instead of paying attention to Palin's statement.

7 posted on 07/03/2009 11:08:38 PM PDT by SolidWood (Palin isn't retreating, but taking the fight in another direction.)
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To: pissant

Not a lot is known yet about what Sarah Palin’s reasons for resigning are, and I am getting pretty tired of all the speculating, kvetching and etc., but I am of the mind that she feels she can work for conservatives in other ways than running for office. Maybe I’m wrong and she really is saying enough is enough. I guess time will tell, but I just don’t see her quitting politics entirely.

Besides, she’s still young and still has time to run for office in the future. ;-)

Good one by Steyn, as always.


8 posted on 07/03/2009 11:08:39 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (Impeach Obama)
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To: counterpunch; All
While all of us are able to express our opinion, you seem to be trolling each and every post about Sarah Palin.

TO ALL: DO NOT RESPOND TO counterpunch, THE TROLL!


9 posted on 07/03/2009 11:08:54 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Words are plentiful, but deeds are precious.- Lech Walesa)
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To: pissant
National office will dwindle down to the unhealthily singleminded (Clinton, Obama), the timeserving emirs of Incumbistan (Biden, McCain) and dynastic heirs (Bush). Our loss.

M.S., Is really telling (the anal) "the Washington D.C. King Makers" to go "straight to hell".

be afraid Democrat / RINOS / CINOS...be very afraid.

GO MARK S.!

10 posted on 07/03/2009 11:08:58 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Zer0Bambi to the poor voter: Welcome to 0bamacare (Peasant Care ®) You Sucker... Now Die! :^)
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To: counterpunch
You STILL haven't answer the question....
Who are you pushing?....MYTH Again.

11 posted on 07/03/2009 11:12:58 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Zer0Bambi to the poor voter: Welcome to 0bamacare (Peasant Care ®) You Sucker... Now Die! :^)
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To: WVKayaker

Not everyone has drank the Palin Kool-Aid.
Some of us recognized it for the political poison it is when she imploded last October.


12 posted on 07/03/2009 11:13:13 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: pissant
....it was not a professionally planned event

The best thing Palin can do is stay away from the GOP's "professional planners".

13 posted on 07/03/2009 11:13:45 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: SolidWood

Sorry bud, but political life is what it is. If you decide to enter then you need to stand by your commitments.

I can’t back someone who’s going to cut and run when the going gets tough. If she thinks being governor is tough, she would have one hell of a rude awakening living in the White House.

If she never plans on running for president, she may have made the right decision. If she does, I won’t be supporting her. Not after this...

I’ve spent too many years in my life wishing a candidate would live up to my expectations, only to have them fail that. I just don’t live in the dream world any longer.

I’m just not going to hope beyond hope that Sarah will work things out.


14 posted on 07/03/2009 11:14:13 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (_Resident of the United States and Kenya's favorite son, Baraaaack Hussein Obamaaaa...)
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To: pissant
With respect to many of the Palinologists below, I think they're getting way too hepatomantic over the entrails.

So Steyn steps on his own words of caution by offering his own assumption. And not even an original one at that. For Steyn, this is subpar.

15 posted on 07/03/2009 11:14:24 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: counterpunch
She’s not the Moses to lead us out of the desert.

Well, it's not McCain, and it's not the Huckster, and it's certainly not the slimy Romney.... Who do you suggest, genius?

16 posted on 07/03/2009 11:15:54 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: pissant
National office will dwindle down to the unhealthily singleminded (Clinton, Obama), the timeserving emirs of Incumbistan (Biden, McCain) and dynastic heirs (Bush). Our loss.

What about Reagan?

17 posted on 07/03/2009 11:16:27 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: WVKayaker; counterpunch
..you seem to be trolling each and every post about Sarah Palin.

Oh! ....He's just another Myth(bot).


18 posted on 07/03/2009 11:16:43 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Zer0Bambi to the poor voter: Welcome to 0bamacare (Peasant Care ®) You Sucker... Now Die! :^)
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To: Lancey Howard

I suggest you get ready for some plagues...


19 posted on 07/03/2009 11:16:59 PM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: counterpunch

Why do you think she’s getting tens of thousands of people to attend her small events, if she imploded last October?

She didn’t implode last October. Good grief, everyone’s entitled to a setback once in a while.

Until today, she was headed on to be a top contender in 2011/12.


20 posted on 07/03/2009 11:17:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (_Resident of the United States and Kenya's favorite son, Baraaaack Hussein Obamaaaa...)
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To: FTJM

Reagan had a long and storied career outside of elected office.


21 posted on 07/03/2009 11:17:55 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: skinkinthegrass

I’ve answered this several times.
I’m not pushing anyone, I’m just warning against the inevitable disaster that a Palin-0bama rematch would bring for the GOP.

Palin obviously also recognizes she’s not up to the task of governing and doesn’t think the media spotlight is worth it.
I think her rabid supporters pushing her to run for president are as much to blame for her resignation as her detractors in the media.

I think it is sad that this woman has been pulled in all directions like this ever since joining McCain’s ticket.
Maybe everybody should just leave her alone and let her go back to normal life with her family. She’s not going to be president. She doesn’t want to be president. She doesn’t want to be in the media spotlight at all anymore.


22 posted on 07/03/2009 11:17:55 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: counterpunch
"It’s time to cut bait on Sarah Palin as the future hope of the GOP, just as she’s cut bait on political life."

You and Steyn are most likely right, but let's give this some time. Whatever her dreams now, I am praying for her success. If she has chosen a future that precludes political aspirations, she has at least served as an example and a beacon for hope for Conservatives that we haven't seen the likes of since Reagan. God bless her in her future plans. Based on yesterday's speech, I'm not counting her completely out yet.

23 posted on 07/03/2009 11:19:00 PM PDT by matthew fuller (-- for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really ashamed of my country.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Jindal is serving out his term. Unless I’m missing something, I think he’s my next person to support.

As for Romney, Huckster, and that other ass, I fully agree.


24 posted on 07/03/2009 11:19:01 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (_Resident of the United States and Kenya's favorite son, Baraaaack Hussein Obamaaaa...)
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To: counterpunch

Agreed. Reading some of the cult-of-personality Palinites on other threads, they have idolized SP as some Superhuman Goddess of Mythical Proportions.

So desperate are they for a counter-messiah to Obama, they can’t BEGIN to think that maybe, just maybe, this is a normal human being puts her personal responsibilities above fulfilling their hyperinflated expectations of her.


25 posted on 07/03/2009 11:20:01 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: pissant
I like Sarah Palin, but she is not presidential material. This move of hers only goes to confirm that she is not politically savvy. Things could change in the next couple of years, but her political future looks dim.

This country is not ready for a female president, and especially one that is not yet ready for prime time. It would take a highly gifted and respected woman to ever be elected POTUS. There is not any female today, in either political party, that has the gravitas to be elected to that office.

I wish nothing but the best for Sarah and her family, but she is not going to be the leader of the GOP or of the conservatives. We have no leaders at this time.

26 posted on 07/03/2009 11:21:48 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: pissant

Ok, and?


27 posted on 07/03/2009 11:22:08 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: pissant

Steyn sums it up.


28 posted on 07/03/2009 11:23:31 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Better to convert enemies to allies than to destroy them)
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To: DoughtyOne

No one showed up for her speech today.

I’m not denying she had supporters last November, or now for that matter.
She just didn’t have nearly as many as 0bama had.
60 million people came out to vote for her. That’s fewer than Bush got 4 years earlier. Hell, that’s fewer than Kerry got 4 years earlier. But 0bama got 70 million people to come out and vote for him.

There just aren’t enough people out there willing to support Palin to beat 0bama.
The first step to recovering from a loss is accepting defeat. Many FReepers aren’t yet ready to move on from 2008, which is why they still cling to Palin. But it is a destructive relationship. She’s no good for us, and we are no good for her.

We need to move on and find someone new to champion as the leader of the GOP. Right now, as you may have noticed, the Republican party is leaderless. That implies Sarah Palin is not the leader. So let’s cut bait and find one.


29 posted on 07/03/2009 11:24:14 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: counterpunch
...he’s not going to be president. She doesn’t want to be president... cp

She announced her candidacy today, or didn't up notice WHAT she said? She has no need to state the obvious.

Why do you think your opinion is the ONLY opinion. There are more of us than you, FRiend. Go troll something about Zero... or just keep pimping for Romney. Actions are louder than words.

cp-

30 posted on 07/03/2009 11:25:01 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Words are plentiful, but deeds are precious.- Lech Walesa)
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To: counterpunch

Agreed. Reading some of the cult-of-personality Palinites on other threads, they have idolized SP as some Superhuman Goddess of Mythical Proportions.

So desperate are they for a counter-messiah to Obama, they can’t BEGIN to think that maybe, just maybe, this is a normal human being puts her personal responsibilities above fulfilling their hyperinflated expectations of her.


31 posted on 07/03/2009 11:25:10 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: pissant

Hats off to all the FReepers, I’m out. If Sarah isn’t running I’ve lost interest in politics. Obama will probably be president for the rest of my life or close to it. If she runs again I’ll hear about it and see you guys and gals then. I’ve really enjoyed my time here, it’s been fun.

Thank you.


32 posted on 07/03/2009 11:25:20 PM PDT by toddausauras
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To: toddausauras

Sarah’s running!


33 posted on 07/03/2009 11:26:25 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Words are plentiful, but deeds are precious.- Lech Walesa)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Pologies for the double post


34 posted on 07/03/2009 11:26:47 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: smoothsailing; SolidWood; Lancey Howard; MeekOneGOP
So Steyn steps on his own words of caution by offering his own assumption. And not even an original one at that. For Steyn, this is subpar.

Steyn is always a treasure subbing for Rush, and I have his America Alone--

--but the usually scintillating is here a fizzle.

"the manner and timing suggest it was not a professionally planned event and therefore is unlikely to have any grand strategy behind it. "

I wonder if Mark Steyn's treatment at the hands of the Canadian courts has opened his range finder the slightest bit--

--to see Palin has removed the target for the frivolous lawsuits and freed her calendar for campaigning for conservatives for 2010--

--the type of campaigning which was part of the Reagan strategy--

I had enough of professionally planned events--Obama mid the Columns of Ancient Styrofoamia comes to mind.

No doubt we'll enjoy Mark while Rush golfs next week.

Alaska's in good hands and the biggest vote-getter for the party of Lincoln and Reagan is free to inspire the 2010 take-back.

35 posted on 07/03/2009 11:27:57 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

For now on, everytime we mention Her, it should be followed by “Peace Be Upon Her.”


36 posted on 07/03/2009 11:29:08 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: All

We should talk conservative issues and let the politicians catch up to us.


37 posted on 07/03/2009 11:31:05 PM PDT by donna (Sarah Palin: " ...all of us, who consider ourselves progressive...")
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To: Lancey Howard

Who do I suggest?
I think it’s up to that person to step forward.
The election is 3 years away.
There is plenty of time.

The 0bamessiah himself didn’t step forward before his Democrat flock until 2007. Hillary had been their false prophet starting the day after Kerry lost in 2004.

So let’s wait and see who emerges.
I suspect it will be someone none of us would name today.
Perhaps someone few of us have even heard of yet.


38 posted on 07/03/2009 11:33:42 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: PhilDragoo
but the usually scintillating is here a fizzle.

Proof that even the best can have a rare one-dimensional mindfreeze.

39 posted on 07/03/2009 11:34:56 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: pissant
Mark Steyn spends too much time talking with Hugh Hewitt about GOP politics. Hugh basically lives in Mitt Romney's butt.

As much as I like Mark, I don't think he has a clue on this one.
40 posted on 07/03/2009 11:34:58 PM PDT by Antoninus (I'm with Palin -- let's take the political fight in another direction...)
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To: counterpunch
I would almost accept his interpretation...except that Palin seems too honorable a person to just leave her job like that, unless she really does have future political plans. I mean, if she really was concerned about the witchhunting obstructing her job performance, and if she really just wanted to go back to being Governor Palin and NOT Sarah Palin, future candidate for President, then all she had to do was announce that she has absolutely no plans or desire to run for any national office. Period. Make it emphatic, get it in writing if necessary. Bingo--the media and the Democrats would leave her alone and everything would be back to where it was before Aug. 29, 2008.

But that's not what she did. So I have to think she has something else up her sleeve.

41 posted on 07/03/2009 11:35:43 PM PDT by giotto
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To: pissant

Mark Steyn is master of language, not a conservative. He cannot empathize with a true conservative. He could listen to Sarah Palin’s entire speech today and not come away understanding what she meant. Conservatives understood instantly. Steyn has become irrelevant. I am astounded by the positive reactions to his article in this thread.


42 posted on 07/03/2009 11:35:45 PM PDT by Kennard
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To: DoughtyOne

You missed the point of her speech. Alaskan taxpayers were being hurt by the frivolous ethic charges against her. Every move she would make exploring running for president would lead to more and more such frivolous charges.

So her choice was to run the Alaskan government and not run for president. Turn over running the Alaskan government to her Lt Governor and save Alaskan tax payers money, if she wants to run for president. There will be no such issue of running for another position when she is president.


43 posted on 07/03/2009 11:36:34 PM PDT by JLS
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To: counterpunch
60 million people came out to vote for her. That’s fewer than Bush got 4 years earlier. Hell, that’s fewer than Kerry got 4 years earlier. But 0bama got 70 million people to come out and vote for him.

Are you drunk? McCain ran against Obama, not Palin. The only time I've seen such illogic on this forum is when the Romney supporters tried to spin his liberal past. You wouldn't be one of them now, would you?

44 posted on 07/03/2009 11:36:48 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: WVKayaker

If she announced she’s running for President in 3 years today, she picked about the worst way to do it by resigning after only 2 years into her first term and doing it in front of an empty crowd.

If she was serious about being president, she would have either run for reelection as governor, or run for the Senate in 2010 first.

Of course I still don’t see how she said it by not saying it.
It looks to me like she wants to go back to being a housewife and hockey mom. Good for her. She was always in way over her head as a national politician.


45 posted on 07/03/2009 11:38:14 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: nathanbedford
They never lived by the Beltway reality. They are just going home.

Indeed. For now. But take heart. An American family has just declared independence.



Happy Independence Day!
46 posted on 07/03/2009 11:38:19 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: pissant
Sorry.. I love Mark Steyn to death... but I've been mulling on what happen today from minuet one till now and I am convinced

....Mark your flat out wrong....

People stayed tuned..the chair is against the wall...orders are forthcoming

47 posted on 07/03/2009 11:38:56 PM PDT by tophat9000 ( We are "O" so f---ed)
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To: counterpunch
Good for her. She was always in way over her head as a national politician.

And you are way over your head as a FReeper.

48 posted on 07/03/2009 11:40:36 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: toddausauras

Are you at least leaving your toys behind when you go home?


49 posted on 07/03/2009 11:41:25 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: counterpunch

Sarah wasn’t running last November. John McCain was. I know a lot of folks here convinced themselves they were putting Sarah Palin in the White House, but Johnny Boy the Leftard was ready to move in. Not Sarah...

So Sarah didn’t lose a straight up fight with Obama. Let me tell you something, McCain benefited from Sarah by ten to twenty points. That quack could have been looking at 35% or worse real easy. We didn’t want him. The left didn’t want him. Who besides a few deluded RINOs championed that loser?

I didn’t vote for a presidential candidate in November 2008. It was the first time in my 34 years of voting. That’s why the McCain/Palin ticket didn’t get as many votes as Bush. Many of us refused to swallow a Soros lovin’ pimp daddy as our candidate.

Obama is going to force this nation’s citizens to vote for someone else. There’s not really going to be any choice, but the time 2012 rolls around. He will have scared the —— out of many people who voted for him. He will have pi—ed off many of the others. He’s a moron.

Our goal is to get someone in there, that will undo what he has done. I have already said, day one I’d be penning more E.O.s than this nation has seen in the last fifty years. I would strike down almost everything this jackass did in four year, with 72 hours. What’s more, I’d tell folks I was going to do it up front. We’ll see what U.S. citizen really want, unlike picking between a Kruschev/Mosolini candidate and a George Soros clone/Obama rubber stamp from Arizona.

Yes, we do need to move on. Palin needs to go back to her family.

Do you realize that Palin was getting tens of thousands of people to show up at her events this spring? From what I’ve read, she is on fire.

Too bad that fire extinguisher fell on her head. (just figuratively folks)


50 posted on 07/03/2009 11:41:32 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (_Resident of the United States and Kenya's favorite son, Baraaaack Hussein Obamaaaa...)
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