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(US) House condemns Tehran crackdown on protesters ( 405 in favor, Ron Paul against )
Breitbart ^ | Jun 19 12:43 PM US/Eastern | ANNE FLAHERTY Associated Press Writer

Posted on 06/19/2009 10:24:56 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

WASHINGTON (AP) - In the strongest message yet from the U.S. government, the House voted 405-1 Friday to condemn Tehran's crackdown on demonstrators and the government's interference with Internet and cell phone communications.

The resolution was initiated by Republicans as a veiled criticism of President Barack Obama, who has been reluctant to criticize Tehran's handling of disputed elections that left hard-liner President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in power.

Rep. Mike Pence, who co-sponsored the resolution, said he disagrees with the administration that it must not meddle in Iran's affairs.

"When Ronald Reagan went before the Brandenburg Gate, he did not say Mr. (Mikhail) Gorbachev, that wall is none of our business," said Pence, R-Ind., of President Reagan's famous exhortation to the Soviet leader to "tear down that wall."

Democrats, who are quick to voice their support for Israel anytime the Jewish state is seen as under siege, easily agreed to push through the mildly worded resolution.

Rep. Howard Berman, chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee and co-sponsor of the resolution, said "it is not for us to decide who should run Iran, much less determine the real winner of the June 12 election.

"But we must reaffirm our strong belief that the Iranian people have a fundamental right to express their views about the future of their country freely and without intimidation," added Berman, D-Calif.

Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Joseph Lieberman, I-Conn., have proposed a similar measure in the Senate, although a vote was not certain.

The policy statement expresses support for "all Iranian citizens who embrace the values of freedom, human rights, civil liberties and rule of law" and affirms "the importance of democratic and fair elections."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Not all Democrats support Israel

Yup, and the article went out of its way to insinuate that Democrats supposedly are knee-jerkers in defense of Israel when many are anything but. Republicans are much more friendly towards Israel because they know they are at risk and they are a vital ally.

It also says the resolution is a vieled attack on Obama.

Well, how do they know? Sources, please.

And even if it is, I think Republicans would have initiated such a resolution in the face of such an important historical event not really that long after the attack on 9/11 by radical Muslims!

And Berman stated it's not up to us to run Iran or determine the winner. But we should support the right of Iranians to a fair election where opposition parties can have representatives in the voting precincts. We should be supporting freedom and democracy as a matter of course and also be proud Israel is a bright example of democratic government.

Perhaps this is the biggest reason Israel is hated so much in the ME and why the Democrats you mentioned share that hate.

261 posted on 06/19/2009 11:22:57 PM PDT by TheThinker (America doesn't have a president. It has a usurper.)
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To: lewisglad
RON PAUL VOTED NO
262 posted on 06/19/2009 11:46:12 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Zionist Conspirator

That seems to be issue number one with them along with prostitution.


263 posted on 06/20/2009 4:16:17 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: randomhero97
Easy. "Our" meddling worked out real well for Iran in the 50s.

And condemning the suppression of freedom is similar the installation and support of the Shah of Iran how?

264 posted on 06/20/2009 5:11:11 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: patriot preacher

265 posted on 06/20/2009 5:29:12 AM PDT by seatrout (I wouldn't know most "American Idol" winners if I tripped over them!)
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To: ican'tbelieveit

That’s because the Founding Fathers advocated a non-interventionist policy, akin to the Monroe doctrine.


266 posted on 06/20/2009 6:13:19 AM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Well.........so long as this prize group of idiots are meddling in affairs that are really none of their business, I suppose they're NOT actively destroying our economy - like normal.

So, by default, I'm all for this.

267 posted on 06/20/2009 6:30:22 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I meant the people wanting to have a peaceful protest, without being killed and having internet/phones shut down. I’m not talking about a 1980’s hardliner.


268 posted on 06/20/2009 7:35:09 AM PDT by savage woman
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To: ican'tbelieveit

Agree, Ron Paul is standing by the long-standing isolationist approach of Republicans (until the Bushs). Frankly, I wish we would return to an isolationist approach, but then blast SEVERLY any country that messes with us.


269 posted on 06/20/2009 8:21:33 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: servantboy777
It does not change the fact that our government is violating the constitution and the war powers act. Going to war without an official declaration by congress is a blatant circumvention of the constitution. Remaining on Afghan and Iraqi soil without an official declaration of war is a violation of the constitution. Like it or not........it is about the constitution.

Read the resolutions. They were a declaration of war.

270 posted on 06/20/2009 8:33:19 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Wow. This thread sure did turn into a Bushbot reunion.


271 posted on 06/20/2009 8:51:35 AM PDT by jmc813
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To: Abathar

Ron Paul


272 posted on 06/20/2009 9:14:03 AM PDT by Munz ("We're all here for you OK? It's a circle of love" Rham Emanuel)
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To: Sparky1776

>>I guess all he can do is just evoke the words of great leaders.<<

Like Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini and Chairman Mao? Or are those just the voices in his head?


273 posted on 06/20/2009 9:16:57 AM PDT by Munz ("We're all here for you OK? It's a circle of love" Rham Emanuel)
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To: GOP_Raider

ROFL!


274 posted on 06/20/2009 10:48:01 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: jmc813

Ron Paul was getting some abuse or love depending on your viewpoint.


275 posted on 06/20/2009 10:48:59 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: AmericanHunter

Ron Paul in his statement (that you posted) says that he admires Obama for his cautious approach in regards to Iran. So can you show me a Ron Paul statement in regards to Obama’s extreme meddling in regards to Israel? Or in regards to Obama’s pre-election meddling in regards to Iraq as a senator? It seemed to me that Ron Paul himself had no problem in meddling in the liberation of Iraq with his constant speaking against it.

The only thing I see consistent (so far) in regards to Ron Paul is his sneaky anti-Israeli sentiment.


276 posted on 06/20/2009 11:10:45 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: The_Victor
And condemning the suppression of freedom is similar the installation and support of the Shah of Iran how?

Read what you posted again very carefully.
277 posted on 06/20/2009 12:02:59 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: dfwddr
The true defense of America does not start at the Jersey shoreline. This great country needs to be defended not only from inside it's borders, but outside it's borders as well. The sooner you understand that, the sooner you will see the bigger picture.

Pick up a rifle and stand watch then.
278 posted on 06/20/2009 12:06:00 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: twigs

I’m not a libertarian like Paul, so there’s issues with which I disagree. However, there is one thing I will say for the man that I very much admire, even when I’m disagreeing, and that is that he is consistent. Anyone knowing what he’s said in the past on foreign issues would expect him to vote against this. He does NOT stick his finger in the wind to decide how to vote. He is principled and consistent. I always listen to what he has to say because he has won my respect.

Agree.

279 posted on 06/20/2009 12:11:49 PM PDT by Asceticon
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To: randomhero97

I wouldn’t hold my breath on that one!


280 posted on 06/20/2009 12:13:19 PM PDT by seatrout (I wouldn't know most "American Idol" winners if I tripped over them!)
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