Posted on 05/20/2009 9:26:48 AM PDT by nuconvert
DUBLIN – A fiercely debated, long-delayed investigation into Ireland's Roman Catholic-run institutions says priests and nuns terrorized thousands of boys and girls in workhouse-style schools for decades — and government inspectors failed to stop the chronic beatings, rapes and humiliation.
Nine years in the making, Wednesday's 2,600-page report sides almost completely with the horrific reports of abuse from former students sent to more than 250 church-run, mostly residential institutions.
It concluded that church officials always shielded their orders' pedophiles from arrest to protect their own reputations and, according to documents uncovered in the Vatican, knew that many pedophiles were serial attackers.
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Not to deny anything like this happened, but, as I said on a parallel thread, anyone who thinks governmental bodies that are on a vendetta against any Christian institution aren’t going to try to slant this to their advantage aren’t being intellectually honest.
well now we know what happened to bill maher.
I’m not saying this didn’t happen, but “thousands, beaten and raped”?
I think the “according to documents uncovered in the Vatican” kind of takes out the doubt element
I have no idea if the Irish gov’t or its “bodies” have a “vendetta against any Christian institution”
I don’t believe it. Not a word. Or maybe one or two words.
Christ had nothing good to say about those who caused the “little ones” to lose faith in Him. And it was the ones who caused the loss of faith who were to blame, not those whose faith were destroyed by those who did those terrible things in His name.
The article made it sound as though the report covers a period of about 60yrs.
“The commission said overwhelming, consistent testimony from still-traumatized men and women, now in their 50s to 80s, had demonstrated beyond a doubt that the entire system treated children more like prison inmates and slaves than people with legal rights and human potential.”
Ping of interest.
What is it about the Catholic church with all the perverts being protected BY THE CHURCH for decades?
This happens again and again, the world over.
Church of perverts ping, Alex.
“Church of perverts ping, Alex.”
*sigh*
...It’s true. I was in catholic school in 58-64. Humiliation and beatings, in private, in the classroom, and in the church were almost daily, by nuns and lay teachers. Not by all, as you say. Not a blanket vendetta against the church...
I have a very close family member that endured this type of abuse at a Catholic orphanage in the 50’s. It is good that those individuals who did her harm are long gone as I would relentlessly hunt them down at their nursing homes and strangle them with their own oxygen line. And I would be going easy on them compared to the pain and suffering they inflicted on small children.
I believe that some abuses did take place. I am also convinced the church did hide some of it.
I am not convinced of the magnitude.
Vague comments are made that seem to mix in possible physical abuse (and who knows what minor infractions today constitute that), with abuse of a sexual nature. The result is that the charges sound much more sinister and widespread then they actually are.
I do believe the media and even the government has an agenda that is served by tearing down respect for Churches and thereby Christianity.
I will say, that anyone who can be proven to have done things that are legitimately wrong to these kids, should spend the rest of their lives in prison, if the charges are serious enough. It take an extremely dim view of people who abuse children who have been placed in their custody, as a refuge from abuse at home.
Sounds like Notre Dame scum school.
You might want to reread the articvle the last institutions closed in the early 90’s so this isn’t anything new just another story rehashed. As per the article the abuse was also from “older inmates”.
If the truth be told, all state run orphanages had these problem whether they were religious or not. Our own fostercare system still has the same problem. People who enjoy hurting children gravitate towards working in areas where they can do what they please.
If you have a large enough number of people, there will always be at least a few bad apples.
We’ve all heard about the priest pedophile scandal here in the US. Actually, it was a priest homosexual scandal (but the media didn’t want to say that.)
And most of it happened during the glorious 70s, when the sexual revolution was in full swing and “sexual freedom” was being broadcast everywhere.
I’m not excusing the bishops and those who covered it up. But similar crimes in the public schools—and in Protestant ministries—were several times larger, and nothing said.
Ireland has been sadly secularized, and this is nothing more or less than a secular attack on the Church. They want to destroy the Church and bring in the modern social goodies like free sex and abortion. Will there be fewer kids abused when that happens? Of course not. It will be far worse for the kids in Ireland. Far worse.
Wouldn’t there be criminal prosecutions for state employees that hid the evidence collected over the years for such abuses?
When the Vatican keeps a running tab on each abuser in power (not the kids hurting kids), keeps them in their position, and keeps it silent, this is grotesquely criminal.
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