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To: TornadoAlley3

Whatever happened to saving lives—as many as possible? This reminds me of the “Values Clarification” stuff that has been in schol; i.e. if you have to throw someone over from a lifeboat, who would you toss and why?


15 posted on 04/26/2009 12:31:20 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Wonder if our founding fathers would even recognize the USA?!)
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To: bushwon

Yep, this really pisses me off. I’ve had quite a bit of “drink” tonight and my gf of four years left me. Still, though, I don’t like the thought of playing god with people’s lives.


21 posted on 04/26/2009 12:43:13 AM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: bushwon
Whatever happened to saving lives—as many as possible?

Duh. That's exactly what this report clarifies - how to direct resources to maximize saving lives. It lists those types of patients most likely to die in any case and most likely to need disproportionate amounts of scarce medical resources during a mass medical emergency.
39 posted on 04/26/2009 2:06:14 AM PDT by Cheburashka (Lesson #1 from Battlestar Galactica: Never turn your back on your toaster.)
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To: bushwon

Whatever happened to saving lives—as many as possible? This reminds me of the “Values Clarification” stuff that has been in schol; i.e. if you have to throw someone over from a lifeboat, who would you toss and why?

They are talking about during a pandemic. Sheesh you can’t save everyone and they are being responsible by discussing this now before all hell brakes loose and they don’t know which why to go because of chaos. This is good reasonable preparation. I hate to think that everyone can’t be saved but that is not possible if you have 300 million people dying. However, they will get as many as possible that is for sure.


61 posted on 04/26/2009 4:37:19 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: bushwon
Whatever happened to saving lives—as many as possible?

Triage is all about saving as many lives as possible, in a situation where there are not enough medical resources to go around.

In a grossly oversimplified example, lets say you have 20 units of "medical resource", and 5 patients.

Patients A, B, C, and D each need 5 units and will die if given less than 5. Patient E needs 20 units and will die if given less than 20. How do you allocate your 20 units of medical resources to maximize the number of surviving patients?

In the above example, saving the one who needs the most units of medical resources means that the other four will die, so you save the four who need the least.

101 posted on 04/26/2009 8:44:41 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: bushwon

Pro-life bump!


117 posted on 04/26/2009 1:49:59 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: bushwon
We have a national physicians and nurses shortage. That's not going to change just because you have a national disaster.

The time to act is now, but the National Chamber of Commerce and the Farm Bureau Co-Op folks have joined forces with La Raza to prevent us from getting more medical personnel from abroad unless we open the boarders.

123 posted on 04/26/2009 1:57:51 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: bushwon

Save the water carriers, not the water drinkers.

I’d rather resouces be spent to preseve an octagenrian who has been productive their entire life, than a 20-something slob who’s destiny will include a stint on disability for some phantom back pain incured for being morbidly obese and protesting when his stupid factory gets shut down thanks to his knuckle-head union.


140 posted on 04/26/2009 2:15:50 PM PDT by Lou Budvis ("We can't spare this woman, she fights.")
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