Posted on 12/05/2008 3:36:25 PM PST by ckilmer
Bump to this
Saul Alinsky tactics at work. Divide and conquer, philosophically, a divided house falls in upon itself.
This scuffle with the BC is actually more Alinsky than a typical election and proceeding as normal.
If you know about Saul Alinksy, everything the democRATS do makes sense.
I have every confidence that the Supreme Court will act appropriately. But the case in front of them has to meet certain standards; if it does, they will grant cert. If it doesn’t, they might remand or take other action. They may even outline their reasoning (which is what I’m hoping for).
I don’t believe for a minute that they will shy away from any case that they know really must be heard and possibly decided by the SCOTUS. Right now, it’s just a question of how they evaluate the case and what their initial read on the legal and factual issues is.
If this case is denied and somehow Obamafraud is actually sworn in I hope that ALL defense attorneys in this country are lined up filing suits on behave of their clients. Saying all laws of the US are now null and void since the POTUS is a usurper. Let’s have a free-for-all.
I hope some court somewhere in the US will actually subpoena his birth certificate. There must be some court/judge that actually takes his oath to uphold the constitution seriously.
If this case is denied and somehow Obamafraud is actually sworn in I hope that ALL defense attorneys in this country are lined up filing suits on behalf of their clients saying all laws of the US are now null and void since the POTUS is a usurper. Let’s have a free-for-all.
I hope some court somewhere in the US will actually subpoena his birth certificate. There must be some court/judge that actually takes his oath to uphold the constitution seriously.
Also, I realize that Leo’s case is not about the birth certificate but rather natural born status.
Well, it may work spiritually in our individual relationships with God, but I can assure you that if it worked politically, Obama would NOT have been elected President.
Weicker’s parents = both Americans.
Romney’s parents = both Americans.
Goldwater’s parents = both Americans.
Arthur’s parents = both Americans (although Arthur’s father was born in Ireland and there is a dispute as to whether he actually was a naturalized American at the time of Chester’s birth).
Obama’s parents = one American and one British subject. Later one Indonesian adoptive father.
Today was only a conference on whether to take the case or not, remand it, or what; an order, but no “ruling,” may be issued.
We peons have to follow all the rules, or else.
This Kenyan; Indonesian - whatever he is, can thumb his nose at the Constitution and nobody gives a rat's.
Wouldn’t the court setting some extra-constitutional standard be an example of that judicial activism we’re always hearing about? There’s not a word in the constitution regarding how one proves eligibility, or what “natural born” might mean, and there’s certainly no serious evidence behind claims Obama wasn’t born in Hawaii.
I mean, except for the obvious step his mother took of putting a birth announcement in a Hawaii newspaper, just in case he ever wanted to run for President someday despite being, you know, born in Kenya.
That may be so, but I do think that the Republic could burn down around the Supreme Court, while they take their time taking care of all these things. By the time they do, and take action, the horse is out of the barn and down the road.
What good is it going to do once Obama gets into office. He can’t be taken out of office with the Democrats in control in Congress.
MACE? Has he been elected yet? Keep praying please. It’s for our country. :)
since obama kenyan citizenship didn’t expire until 1982—likely he went to pakistan on a kenyan passport.
Having gotten more interested in the legal issues lately, I’ve been doing some nosing around. Sure, I’d heard that the Left had been up in arms about McCain “not being a natural born citizen,” and thus “ineligible” to serve as President, but I really didn’t know until recently the depth and breadth of that discussion.
Believe me, had McCain won, the Left would have been this exact same challenge to him, and be mouthing the same conspiracy theories as well.
The only difference is that most on our side will accept that the Supreme Court’s action (or non-action) as legitimate, while their side never would.
What about Woodrow Wilson’s England-born mother?
Was he not a natural-born citizen?
Thanks.
One site said he specifically stated that on his website. That would blow my mind.
Sorry cklimer - I think that was meant for fightinJAG...I just replied to his response to bump
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