Posted on 12/05/2008 3:36:25 PM PST by ckilmer
And when and how did he become a citizen of the USA? If the laws recognize paternity and jurisdiction of flows from the father to the son. How would he have lost his Kenyan Citizenship and when did acquire US citizenship.
The United States recognizes and affirms the laws of other nations as relates to their citizens and as such Obama has his roots legally in Kenya.
He still has three BC’s as well:
1. His original BC before adoption, that was sealed upon his adoption.
2. His new adopted identity BC with his Stepfather.
3. His new change of name identity BC or one from another country.
They are all at variance with each other and conflict with Obama’s story.
BTW, having found his birth certificate amongst his mothers belongings, why did he not submit that as proof of his identity instead of an abstract?
Because there are no serious doubts. There's no real evidence for any of this. There might -- MIGHT -- be some argument to be made that having a non-American father might make you a ... non-natural-born citizen -- but there's NOTHING that seriously suggests he was born anywhere but in Hawaii, and the continual claims of that non-issue have really made it impossible to intelligently discuss the first, POSSIBLE issue of his father's citizenship. (Which, separately, as best I can tell, wouldn't preclude an American-born person from being considered natural-born, based on case law.)
“The Constitution was written for an honest, intelligent and moral people.”
Which, of course, most Americans are none of the above. Your point is well taken. Sadly so, but well taken.
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“Do you know who now is in charge of vouchsafing the constitutional standard that a President be a natural born citizen? The POLITICAL PARTY OF THAT CANDIDATE. Do you not find that constitutionally abhorrent and just plain gross?”
Not to mention they seem to have no obligation to any citizen to publicly produce evidence of eligibility. Just take our word for it. Yeah, right.
“2. His new adopted identity BC with his Stepfather.”
He wasn’t adopted under Hawaiian law. So, in Hawaii there would be no new BC. Besides, the version he posted showed B.H. Obama (African) as his father. If Hawaii had changed it upon adoption, it would read Sotero.
Wrong. Obama voters would've been even more ecstatic to vote for the sob. Look at them!!!
WANT PIE!
Maybe if this had been done earlier we would have Hillary as POTUS elect. But after the conventions, and certainly now, fuggedaboutit.
Other than that Mrs Lincoln, have a nice weekend.
Why can’t some member of the Democratic Party sue the DNC to see actual proof (his vault birth certificate)?
The GOP senators prevented Obama from inserting that text. It was clearly set up to try to achieve the result of having a legislative text (although it would have been unconstitutional, I’m sure, if it was ever tested) giving Barry cover. He was the one who proposed the text.
PS - If he was adopted by Sotero....shouldn’t there be legal paperwork on file changing his name back to Obama? Unless, Indonesian proceedings aren’t recognized by the U.S.?
Wilson’s mother was an American at the time of his birth. Thus, Wilson was born in the U.S. to two American citizens.
Obama was born to an American mother and a British father. Hello.
This may or may not have an impact on his status as a “natural born citizen,” but no one the hell knows that for sure.
Excerpt from here:
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/
WOODROW WILSON
Born December 28, 1856 - the 28th President, born in Staunton, Virginia.
Wilson’s mother was from Carlisle, England. His father was a US citizen from Ohio. Wilson’s mother gained US citizenship when she married his father according to a congressional Act of February 1855, which stated,
“any woman who might lawfully be naturalized under existing laws, married, or shall be married to a citizen of the United States, shall be deemed and taken to be a citizen.” [Act of February 10, 1855, 10 Stat. 604, section 2]
This was called derivative citizenship. This act was enacted in 1855. Woodrow Wilson was born in December 1856. He was born in the US, both parents were US citizens - natural born citizen.
Made MSM?
Or maybe her family just wanted it out there that Ann had actually married Barack I and that Barack II was not illegitimate.
It was 1961, you know.
Heller VS. Washington D.C..
I was in my local art association’s gallery setting something up and I wandered into a room of new paintings, a number of them by a black artist (I knew this because his photo was at the door). Dominating the display was a painting of a radiant looking Obama. I practically made the sign of the cross and backed out of the room.
These Obamaphiles are nuts. How in the world can they be this gaga over a complete unknown with absolutely no track record, no history, no ideas. Is skin color really the only thing blacks think about? And what in the heck was going through the minds of the non-black voters who voted for him? They’re all nuts.
That’s why I’m asking!
But there is no evidence that Obama was not born in Hawaii. He has a birth certificate, AND the state of Hawaii has said repeatedly its real.
Additionally, that doesnt matter because Obama is a citizen even if he was born outside the country, because his mother was a citizen. McCain was born in panama, and he is a natural born citizen.
I feel like this controversy is a waste of time.
Yes--it is all too much. Reverend Wright........Associations with Ayers, Odinga, his illegal relatives in Boston.......giving out $$$$$ to groups that will then help him in your elections.......Michelle doubled salary with his senate election......... No college roommates remembering him at Columbia .....No records released of his grades.....no legislative records for review from Illinois.......no records from Occidental....no papers from the Harvard Law review.....No birth certificate.....actually fighting the release of his vault birth certificate. No family time with his dear Grandmother for his children before her death. Or any time with her as they were growing up...... No papers to show his numerous name changes. No records of how his education was sponsored. Unbelievably quick rise in politics without accomplishments. No review or vetting by the MSM. Election donations without requiring legitimate addresses....foreign aide.............
Yes it is all quite unbelievable. Our undocumented President Elect.
Again, it’s not about the birth certificate or the place of birth.
Way more issues here. The only question is have those issues been raised in a legally cognizable way to the SCOTUS.
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