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It's not just illegal aliens, tourists visiting from Germany or Spain, etc., a woman who happens to be pregnant and gives birth during the visit, they are not "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" so that baby is NOT an American citizen, though he was born on U.S. soil.

There is obviously a great need for the SC to clarify this issue. As you said, it's unlikely that a child born in the US through some unintended misfortune, to foreign tourist parents would be given American citizenship, but I don't know that it wouldn't be so.

There's obviously far too much ambiguity in the law. It needs to be clarified and settled, once and for all.

I agree with you on the ambiguity, and in fact, this is my main reason for hoping/insisting if I really could that the SC weigh in, we need ALL of this clarified. In my example, if tourists on a visit happen to birth a child, he is considered a natural-born citizen according to the presidential requirement, what then stops an enemy-country from sending a female here, she has her baby, but takes him back to her country for indoctrination/America hating, etc., only to have him come back here in time to meet the residency requirement and then run for president? Carrying that kind of mindset?? No way, I say this simply cannot be tolerated.

I don't want 0bama forced to show his vault copy birth certificate to defeat him, shove him out, *overturn the will of the people* -- I want him to show his vault copy to indeed prove he does meet the simple Constitutional requirement. For if he does not, if he truly does not satisfy, even for a mere *technicality* but is allowed to hold the office, ignoring that part of the Constitution, than ANY citizen may ignore ANY part of the Constitution as well, bad precedent. Or any other person who misses the requirement for another mere *technicality* must also be allowed the office, another bad precedent.

It is way beyond time we stop allowing people to run for federal office on the "say so" method, either the states, legislatures or the political parties set up a system whereby they verify that any person who wishes to run for office meets the citizenship/residency requirements, for the president, the natural-born status. No more of this idea that we have to prove they don't, that is silly on its face -- one cannot prove a negative.

Thanks for the reply.