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To: BP2
“Children of illegal aliens, if they are born in the United States, are U.S. citizens. That is in the U.S. Constitution.”

That is most certainly NOT in the U.S. Constitution.

Some people believe it is so because of a common misreading of the 14th Amendment due to a misunderstanding of the holdings of the Wong Kim Ark case. The fact is, this misreading of the 14th turns the amendment straight onto its head, and gives the Amendment precisely the opposite effect of that intended by its authors, Congress, and the ratifying States.

NO case heard in the Supreme Court has EVER held that birthright citizenship is granted under the 14th Amendment to the children of people in the United States illegally. Or legally, for that matter, if not admitted as immigrants.

11 posted on 12/04/2008 12:02:29 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: John Valentine

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

If you’re born in the United States, you are a citizen of the US. Period.


18 posted on 12/04/2008 12:15:55 AM PST by Chet 99
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To: John Valentine
NO case heard in the Supreme Court has EVER held that birthright citizenship is granted under the 14th Amendment to the children of people in the United States illegally. Or legally, for that matter, if not admitted as immigrants.

However, under current laws and practice, birthright citizenship exists and has existed ever since the 14th amendment was adopted. We have 400,000 anchor babies born each year to illegal alien parents. These anchor babies are treated just like every other US citizen and have the same rights and privileges, including a US passport upon demonstrating they were born here. The only exception is childred born to accredited diplomats to the US.

If a decision ever does come before SCOTUS, current law and practice for more than 100 years will have an impact on any ruling. IMO, if Obama was born in the US, he is a US citizen.

158 posted on 12/04/2008 5:52:28 AM PST by kabar
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To: John Valentine

Well said John Valentine!!!!


181 posted on 12/04/2008 6:13:37 AM PST by Sorry screen name in use
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To: John Valentine; kabar
NO case heard in the Supreme Court has EVER held that birthright citizenship is granted under the 14th Amendment to the children of people in the United States illegally. Or legally, for that matter, if not admitted as immigrants.

Good Point!!!!

200 posted on 12/04/2008 6:55:48 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: John Valentine

very true. that is a whole oher issue about illegal immigrants that is too often not reported by the s called media.


385 posted on 12/04/2008 2:28:07 PM PST by SerafinQ
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To: John Valentine
NO case heard in the Supreme Court has EVER held that birthright citizenship is granted under the 14th Amendment to the children of people in the United States illegally. Or legally, for that matter, if not admitted as immigrants.

Excellent point. I didn't realize that. Wouldn't it be wonderful, if as a side benefit to this case, all anchor babies were declared not citizens also!
698 posted on 12/06/2008 2:37:03 AM PST by CottonBall
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