Posted on 11/24/2008 2:46:52 PM PST by Frantzie
HOME RUN! - 1861 CIRCUIT JUSTICE SWAYNE DEFINES NATURAL BORN CITIZEN! All persons born in the allegiance of the king are natural born subjects, and all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural born citizens. Birth and allegiance go together. Such is the rule of the common law, and it is the common law of this country, as well [**18] as of England. There are two exceptions, and only two, to the universality of its application. The children of ambassadors are in theory born in the allegiance of the powers the ambassadors represent, and slaves, in legal contemplation, are property, and not persons. An alien naturalized is “to all intents and purposes a natural born subject.” Co. Litt. 129. “Naturalization takes effect from birth; denization from the date of the patent.”
The Supreme Court Case That Will Destroy Barack Obama - McCARTHY ET AL. v. BRISCOE, GOVERNOR OF TEXAS September 30, 1976 An individual Justice of the United States Supreme Court, as Circuit Justice, will grant an application for an injunction, ordering that the name of an independent candidate for President be placed on a state’s general election ballot, where (1) a state statute requiring that a presidential candidate must be a member of a political party in order to secure a place on the ballot, whereas candidates for most other offices could gain access to the ballot by submitting a prescribed number of voters’ signatures, clearly violated the constitutional rights of the independent candidate and state voters, (2) in an action by the candidate and certain state voters attacking the constitutionality of the statute, the lower federal courts, although properly concluding that the statute was unconstitutional
I'm not sure how much of that was planned and scripted to get Leo off the hook for Lamphere’s website. Maybe a little bit of shock radio, too. First Amendment _IS_ No. 1, especially to a guy like Lamphere.
I'm pretty sure Leo is conservative, but even as much as I've been following him, I'm not entirely sure.
But in order for Leo to do what he's trying to do, in front of the Supreme Court and the American public, he MUST be seen as non-partisaned.
I hate political correctness as much as everyone else. But credibility is vital where we are in this process!
Thank. I was listening. Lan and Leo had a blow up over Lan’s picture of Obama as Hitler on his web site.
Leo has a case in front of SCOTUS and he has to take the high road. Leo has the utmost respect for the Justices and is fighting a lonely battle.
Lan has a right to his opinion but winning a tiny tiny battle and losing the war is not smart.
I don’t know a thing about the law. I do, however, know that if someone, somewhere, somehow is not able to compel Obama to prove whether he is eligible for the highest office in the land, when there is such serious doubt over the question, then your Constitution is not worth the paper its written on.
I have been following this Birth Certificate case and posting responses and articles, but I have been let down so often, its hard to believe there is a possibility that the Supreme Court might put things right. It is nearly beyond hope. I know there will be pain with that decision, but it is the only one that will long term preserve our Country and Constitution. They have to find this fraud ineligible, if he wasn’t a natural born citizen. It is cut an dry.
Does Donofrio have a website to host him?
Leo wrote on his blog that he authorized ZAPEM as having authenticate information and a mirror of his blog. I guess they set it up in case his stuff goes poof again.
Thanks for the info. :-)
I don’t think Leo wants the drama. I think he wants to stick to the legal issue and Lan is bending it to his issues. That’s the problem.
Lan is entitled to his opinion for sure, but he was definitely trying to box Leo into a corner to make personal conclusions he wasn’t willing to make.
I hope they kiss and make up. This is starting to sound like a divorce.
What Leo REALLY needs is the MSM, but since they won’t do it, maybe Mel Gibson can give it some attention. People always listen to Hollywood for some reason.
So Donofrio did not draw a substantive connection between the McCarthy case and his motion.
I’m glad you brought this to light. At this point, we need to be very careful and very accurate. Donofrio needs as much support as he can get.
You make a good point. Procedural issue is different than substance.
What I would like to know by those that have dealt with Supreme Court cases is this....
Billybob said that Leo doesn’t know the job of the Clerk. How is it possible that the Clerk can deny a stay on his own?
"I'm so depressed and embarassed that Free Republic Freepers are demanding that Obama prove he is eligible to be president! I will not be able to function today! So I will post nonsense about how stupid Freepers are about Zer0‘s lack of birth honesty."
Leo is trying to win the war and maybe Lan wants to win a tiny tiny battle. Lan is a not a very strategic thinker. Leo’s audience now is the SCOTUS Justices and he has to stay on point and cannot be involved with people who want to rant. Lan does not get it. Mel Gibson harmed his own reputation with his DUI.
Well, you can refuse to accept papers that aren’t in order. So say that you haven’t followed the court rules for submission. The clerk’s job is to advise you of that.
The clerk is supposed to check, make sure everything is in order, stamp the thing and hand it to the judge. Bickell decided he WAS the judge.
I think you’re right, Frantzie. Leo’s focus is the preservation of what the framers intended and he really believes that “natural born citizen” is what they intended.
I don’t know. Mel Gibson can’t possibly be any worse. Bush had a DUI, too, right? haha And Obama snorted coke!
While Leo isn’t looking or asking for a dime in this, it would sure make one hell of a movie in the end. This is history in the making and I’m just thinking that it’s a great way to get this issue out so people could understand it.
Yeah, how dare people expect the Constitution be followed and the intent of the founding forefathers who began this country be heard!
He/she can be “depressed and embarassed” all they like. However, I doubt that’s the case. They’re just whining because someone actually had the audacity to object to Mr. Audacity himself.
Besides the obvious trolls, we have a bunch of so called conservatives, who don’t want the constitution to be followed in with issue.
Makes one wonder what problems they might have with their documentation.
LOL! Like that's going to stop anyone!
Some of the finest legal scholarship supports Leo Donofrio’s position that neither Obama or McCain are “Natural Born Citizens”. See http://www.michiganlawreview.org/firstimpressions/vol107/solum.htm “Originalism And The Natural Born Citizen Clause” by Lawrence B. Solum, Professor of Law, University Of Illinois, and http://www.michiganlawreview.org/firstimpressions/vol107/chin.htm “Why Senator John McCain Cannot Be President” by
Gabriel J. Chin, Professor of Law, University of Arizona.
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