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"There is no place in the GOP now for the moderates and they need to find a home," Whalen said. "The brand is dead in New England."

I was raised in NH but could never live there again. The libs have ruined it

1 posted on 11/10/2008 12:27:04 AM PST by Glacier Honey
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To: Glacier Honey

I know I may catch hell here for saying this but if we MUST have moderates in the party...i’d prefer Sunnunu to McCain anyday.


2 posted on 11/10/2008 12:32:25 AM PST by Def Conservative (Palin, Jindal, Pence, Sanford, Steele= the new GOP...out with the old)
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To: Glacier Honey
Its moderates who have been wiped out. That's not a verdict on conservatism.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

3 posted on 11/10/2008 12:34:11 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Glacier Honey

Everything is a dying breed in England, except Islam and demands for sharia law. Soon The flag of the UK will be replaced with Mohammads flag of death and the UK will be just another 3rd island floating in the atlantic waiting for western aid while they plot to kill us all.


4 posted on 11/10/2008 12:36:40 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Glacier Honey
A generation ago the Republican Party wasRINOs were the dominant political force in New England, populating the region's congressional delegations with moderates socialists like Connecticut's Lowell P. Weicker Jr. and Rhode Island's John Chafee.

But today's GOP, led by big governnment liberals masquerading as compassionate conservativesa more socially conservative wing of the party, is finding votes harder to come by because Democrats are now a de facto socialist party.


There. Fixed it.

 

 

5 posted on 11/10/2008 12:38:23 AM PST by peyton randolph (Give Obama the same respect the Dims gave Bush and watch the howling begin)
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It’s impossible to retain fiscal conservatism without retaining moral conservatism as the ideal for all.


17 posted on 11/10/2008 1:06:05 AM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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A generation ago the Republican Party was the dominant political force in New England, populating the region's congressional delegations with moderates like Connecticut's Lowell P. Weicker Jr. and Rhode Island's John Chafee.

This is inconsequential to Conservatives. Neither of these two were Conservative. Shays is certainly not Conservative. Weicker pushed for the state income tax after stating creating such a tax would be like pouring gasoline on a fire. They only illustrate the fact the GOP has become incrementally more socialistic over the years to expand the party's voter base. The GOP has been slowly aligning its political ideology with the socialist Democrats to essentially form one big Republicrat party at the expense of conservatism.
35 posted on 11/10/2008 2:23:56 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Glacier Honey
A couple of things.

I don't think conservatism is dead in New England, it just seems that the committed portion of it is too small to win elections, i.e. 30-35%. The middle in that region needs a galvanizing issue to make them form a coalition with the right.

If, say we were talking about the South, and they had no more Democrats in the house of representatives, they would be talking about "what's wrong with the South" in the same way they have been talking about how solid the South has been in the past for Republicans as far as the electoral college is concerned (until this election, of course). Because we are talking about Republicans in New England, it's "What's wrong with Republicans" rather than "What's wrong with New England". You will never get the storyline you instinctively feel out of the mainstream media, it's always going to be through their lens.

One last thing about Rinos and inclusiveness. I actually am not so against having Rinos in the party in certain circumstances, but I think that it's telling that some Rinos appear to have gone after Sarah Palin with such gusto, in such an underhanded way. I know the democratic party would not tolerate that sort of behavior, but we tolerate it on our side.

36 posted on 11/10/2008 2:49:52 AM PST by ReveBM
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Using social conservatives as the face of the party and exploiting cultural wedge issues has been a disaster for the GOP, who has been bleeding voters for the last 4 years.

New England can come back to the fold again (especially with the disaster thats coming in the next 4 years economically), but the GOP must reposition itself to its Reaganite roots, and subdue the Falwell elements.


37 posted on 11/10/2008 3:30:05 AM PST by DiogenesLaertius
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Nations throughout Europe are swinging back toward conservative governance because socialism does not work and the people living under it eventually realize it.

Conservatism cannot die because it works!

38 posted on 11/10/2008 3:34:26 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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Liberals fleeing the blue states for safer environs have moved into red states and like all rotten apples, they have contaminated the entire barrel.


41 posted on 11/10/2008 3:50:45 AM PST by Carley (Vote McCain/Palin.....Change babies can live with.)
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GOP IS DEAD EVERYWHERE.


42 posted on 11/10/2008 3:58:35 AM PST by DeaconRed (HELP! ! ! ! CHANGE IS ON THE WAY)
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"The brand is dead in New England."

Okay, then, I say Liberals are not welcome in Tennessee. If you northeastern Liberals are thinking of moving here to escape the messes you've made for yourselves, forget it. Just keep right on going to Florida or Georgia or North or South Carolina where you will be far more comfortable with the politics. We're turning darker red here in Tennessee. 'Pubbies just took over both state houses for the first time since reconstruction. We don't want you to coming here and screwing this state up like you screwed your home states up! There are enough of your ilk here already. We're all "bitter clingers" here. Everybody has guns. Almost everybody does for themselves, with the exception of the transplant crybabies. You won't like it at all. Pass the word: Tennessee sucks!

43 posted on 11/10/2008 4:19:15 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Silence is not always a Sign of Wisdom, but Babbling is ever a Mark of Folly. - B. Franklin)
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Morality is DEAD in New England....Rabidly PRO-ABORTION and GAY RIGHTS.


46 posted on 11/10/2008 4:39:31 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Glacier Honey

Oh goody, another Goldman Sachs guy. It’s not like we’ve had enough of those guys “fixing” our economy the last few years.

I figure when you have to get $10 billion from the government to hand out $8.5 billion in bonuses, there may be something horribly wrong.


53 posted on 11/10/2008 5:10:41 AM PST by gore_sux
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They don’t die, they just move away.

In Milwaukee, the pundits can’t figure out why the ring of counties around Milwaukee voted 60-70% in favor of McCain while Milwaukee County went 72% for Obama.

Producers vs. consumers. Earners moving outside the reach of entitlement culture best they can. Many more head right out of state while the business culture hollers “brain drain” and struggles to figure out why.


60 posted on 11/10/2008 6:25:31 AM PST by sbMKE
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I think the majority of problems in the Northeast and Florida too come from the spread of the Massholes as the libbing of the West has been brought about by the immigration of the Kalifornicators throughout the West. The premise has been floated here many times regarding the people moving from the totally blue states where they can no longer afford to live and then taking the same politically repulsive policies along with them to ruin their next home state. Sad!


61 posted on 11/10/2008 6:51:04 AM PST by SPOTTEDOWL (Are frontal lobotomies prerequisite for being classified as a liberal?)
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