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GOP a dying breed in New England
comcast news ^ | 11/09/08

Posted on 11/10/2008 12:27:03 AM PST by Glacier Honey

GOP a dying breed in New England

Incumbent U.S. Sen. John Sununu, R-N.H., gives his dad John Sr. a hug before... 13 hours ago

Loading... Must Read?Thank You Yes 39HARTFORD, Conn. — A generation ago the Republican Party was the dominant political force in New England, populating the region's congressional delegations with moderates like Connecticut's Lowell P. Weicker Jr. and Rhode Island's John Chafee.

But today's GOP, led by a more socially conservative wing of the party, is finding votes harder to come by.

Voters on Tuesday cast out Connecticut's veteran Rep. Chris Shays, the last New England Republican in the U.S. House of Representatives. Sen. John Sununu was voted out in New Hampshire, leaving that state's Judd Gregg and Maine's Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe as the only Republicans among the region's 12 senators.

Shays' loss to former Goldman Sachs executive Jim Himes marks the first time since 1969 that southwestern Connecticut will be represented by a Democrat in the House.

"I felt that we were going to win this, I really did," Shays told supporters. "I felt that people were so good to me, they were so nice to me. But they were deciding they were going to go the other way."

New England's decision to "go the other way" in recent elections is a dramatic transformation for a region considered a Republican stronghold a generation ago.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Connecticut; US: Maine; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho2008; bluestates; newengland
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To: who knows what evil?

Thanks for the info. Will look it up.


51 posted on 11/10/2008 5:08:21 AM PST by Strutt9
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To: Vanders9

I think the most dangerous thing the conservatives can do will be to underestimate this guy and how dirty and underhanded this administration will be.

I know things are going to go sideways, but I’m afraid that Obie has positioned himself in such a way that he may be tough to knock down after a re-election. I was literally blown away by some of the results in PA, VA and NC. The college kids actually got out of bed this year!

He’ll be fleecing the taxpaters on one hand and shaking down the taxtakers at the same time. The war chest that he will accrue will be tremendous in 2012. Gotta start picking off those seats in 2010. Conservative, Libertarians and mods are going to have to quit the foodfight and work together.

Obie will also be using ACORN, La Raza, et al to fix the elections that the Dems can’t win. Look at MN right now!!!

Local Washington AM has a question out today “Obama Honeymoon?” There are some Dem shills calling in, but the response is a resounding “HELL NO!” which how I vote.

This guy is going to run the country the way Kwame Kilpatrick runs Detroit ~ the problem is that there are NO burbs for us to run to.


52 posted on 11/10/2008 5:08:37 AM PST by incredulous joe (Carry on Regardless!!)
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To: Glacier Honey

Oh goody, another Goldman Sachs guy. It’s not like we’ve had enough of those guys “fixing” our economy the last few years.

I figure when you have to get $10 billion from the government to hand out $8.5 billion in bonuses, there may be something horribly wrong.


53 posted on 11/10/2008 5:10:41 AM PST by gore_sux
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To: taildragger

Perhaps more accurately these people have turned their backs on what they THINK conservatism IS. But, hey, if people have no concept of what the conservative platform is, that’s the fault of the conservative movement. Turning this thing round might therefore start with putting the case forward in a better way.


54 posted on 11/10/2008 5:11:47 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: taildragger

Conservative need to stop sending their kids to schools to the tune of 20k only to have their kids come out as Obamabots.

There are good, small colleges to be found where your children won’t be indoctrinated.

My brother, a conservative just sent my niece iff to school at University of TN, just to have her brain filled with mush. No job skills other than to join the green force of Al Gore and carbon offsets.

It’s his own fault! He didn’t do the necessary legwork and was lulled into the big name state school.


55 posted on 11/10/2008 5:14:19 AM PST by incredulous joe (Carry on Regardless!!)
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To: Morgan in Denver

I refuse to believe that the “high road” is the one that leads inevitably to destruction.

If that ever became the case, I would reccomend emigration.


56 posted on 11/10/2008 5:14:50 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: incredulous joe
My brother, a conservative just sent my niece iff to school at University of TN, just to have her brain filled with mush. No job skills other than to join the green force of Al Gore and carbon offsets. It’s his own fault! He didn’t do the necessary legwork and was lulled into the big name state school.

IJ,

So many useless degrees, let me assume she now has one.

Some of the harder curriculum's are Business and the Engineering disciplines, Good jobs, but can they hack the math and the abstractness of Accounting. Again the NEA education system doesn't point them their and the dumbing down does not make them ready, unless the kids are fast tracked with advanced courses.

Nothing against your niece, but in terms of trades skills, she might have been better off learning TIG or MIG welding, become an A & P aircraft Mechanic, learned plumbing, fine cabinet making or electrican rather than what her degree might earn her.....

57 posted on 11/10/2008 5:29:47 AM PST by taildragger (The Answer is Fred Thompson, I do not care what the question is.....)
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To: Vanders9
"But do you realise how ridiculous that strategy is? Obama won partly because the democrats were better organised this time round and got THEIR core vote out, but partly also because he persuaded the undecideds and moderates and unsures."

No. Obama won COMPLETELY because they were better organized and got their core vote out, and much of the base was so PO'd at McCain that they would never vote for him. Palin recovered a significant number of those voters, but not enough. There is zero evidence that "undecided and moderate" voters cost McCain the election. The "country club" Republicans (Schwartzenegger and others) have been trying to sell this for the last forty years, and it hasn't worked yet. They had their way completely in this election, with their preferred presidential candidate, and lost their asses.

When Republicans run as conservatives, they win, witness Reagan, Bush I (who lost because he betrayed the conservative position on taxes), Bush II (who ran as a conservative, despite the fact that he governed as a moderate). McCain refused to run as a conservative, and lost his ass.

58 posted on 11/10/2008 6:17:26 AM PST by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: Vanders9
"I refuse to believe that the “high road” is the one that leads inevitably to destruction."

Yeah, McCain believed that, too, and look what HE got.

"If that ever became the case, I would reccomend emigration"

Where?? If the US goes down, then freedom is done. And I'm afraid it's done, anyway, because the first thing "the Obama" and the remaining "moderate" Republicans (with McCain leading the charge with Ted Kennedy) will do is pass "comprehensive immigration reform" (aka complete amnesty with full voting rights for any illegal). This assures Obama's victory in the next election, and likely an indefinite string of "democratic socialist" governments on into the future. If he screws things up so badly that even THAT voting block doesn't support him, then the country is toast, anyway.

I have an alternate suggestion, why don't all you "moderates" emigrate, like to Canada. They're all "moderates" up there.

59 posted on 11/10/2008 6:24:24 AM PST by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: Glacier Honey

They don’t die, they just move away.

In Milwaukee, the pundits can’t figure out why the ring of counties around Milwaukee voted 60-70% in favor of McCain while Milwaukee County went 72% for Obama.

Producers vs. consumers. Earners moving outside the reach of entitlement culture best they can. Many more head right out of state while the business culture hollers “brain drain” and struggles to figure out why.


60 posted on 11/10/2008 6:25:31 AM PST by sbMKE
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To: Glacier Honey

I think the majority of problems in the Northeast and Florida too come from the spread of the Massholes as the libbing of the West has been brought about by the immigration of the Kalifornicators throughout the West. The premise has been floated here many times regarding the people moving from the totally blue states where they can no longer afford to live and then taking the same politically repulsive policies along with them to ruin their next home state. Sad!


61 posted on 11/10/2008 6:51:04 AM PST by SPOTTEDOWL (Are frontal lobotomies prerequisite for being classified as a liberal?)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Well, I can’t prove a negative. No one knows what might have happened if, say, duncan hunter or Fred Thompson would have run. But hold on, they did...and they got voted down.

I think conservatism is not as popular as you fondly think.


62 posted on 11/10/2008 7:10:41 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: Wonder Warthog

Yeah, I guess from your point of view the only course of action is indeed to purge the GOP of all those “impure” voices that curiously happen to support it.

Implosion beckons. Obscurity beckons actually.


63 posted on 11/10/2008 7:17:02 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9
"I think conservatism is not as popular as you fondly think."

Poll after poll proves that a majority of the nation supports conservative positions. And the presidential elections I cited also prove it. Hell, even the last Congressional election supports it---the Demos won largely because they ran "more conservative" (i.e. anti-abortion, pro-gun ownership) Democrats in many areas of red states, hand-selected by Rahm Emanuelle, specifically to put the sheep-skin over the Democrat wolf.

64 posted on 11/10/2008 7:50:20 AM PST by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: Vanders9
I think conservatism is not as popular as you fondly think.

If it isn't today - it soon will be.

Americans are going to absolutely stunned over the next few years.

65 posted on 11/10/2008 7:55:30 AM PST by CharacterCounts (Wanted: Snappy, erudite tag line.)
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To: CharacterCounts

I agree...unfortunately, BO can do a lot of damage in those few years.


66 posted on 11/10/2008 8:34:40 AM PST by Vanders9
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