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Where’s Obama on gun rights?
Colorado Springs Gazette ^ | October 22, 2008 | Masthead Editorial

Posted on 10/27/2008 12:39:09 PM PDT by neverdem

Brilliantly, Democrats have kept the issue of guns out of the presidential campaign. Guns have barely been mentioned, with the exception of Barack Obama's gaffe about rubes clinging to Bibles and guns, his cautious support of the Supreme Court's Heller decision, and pop culture references to GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin killing moose.

Democrats have long been on the losing end of the gun-rights debate, which has cost them countless elections.

Quietly, on Oct. 13, The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence - one of the most radical gun control organization in the United States - endorsed Obama. It's an endorsement Obama hasn't flaunted on his campaign stumps, but it's one that should concern Second Amendment defenders.

Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign, said the organization endorsed Obama because he knows the benefits of "strengthening our Brady background check system, getting military-style assault weapons off our streets, and giving law enforcement more tools to stop the trafficking of illegal guns."

In other words, the Brady Campaign has researched the candidates and come to the conclusion that Obama might fight for gun control. They use fancy phrasing, such as ridding the streets of "military-style assault weapons." What they really want, however, is to cause trouble for law-abiding citizens who wish to keep handy the guns they find necessary for hunting and security.

If Obama and Joe Biden will help get assault weapons off our streets, then Obama and Biden support ordinary gun control. We had a so-called assault weapons ban from 1994 to 2004, and it was ordinary gun control. The Department of Justice found it did little or nothing to reduce violent crime in this country.

Genuine assault rifles are machine guns, which rapid-fire multiple rounds with one pull of the trigger. That's what gun banners want the general public to visualize when they talk about banning assault rifles. They want us to imagine some monstrous gang leader spraying bullets in all directions at the police and innocent bystanders.

But genuine assault rifles, as in machine guns, were essentially banned by the 1934 National Firearms Act. Possessing one lawfully means buying a license and spending thousands on a firearm. Few people own them, and they are not the subject of the so-called assault weapons ban we already tried, and are considering again.

The modern gun banner has taken to classifying common semi-automatic rifles, such as the civilian models of the AR-15 or the AK-47, as "assault rifles." They are ordinary rifles that shoot one bullet for each pull of the trigger. They are commonly owned by hunters, collectors and people who care about home safety.

Ironically, the ban of these so-called assault weapons in 1994 left far more powerful weapons in play - weapons capable of far greater destruction, such as the common .30-06 hunting rifle. All it did was ban rifles of a certain class simply because they look more dangerous and therefore could be confused with something needlessly menacing to society.

Those who would take our Second Amendment gun rights know that most Americans don't support their agenda. So they seek to get the camel's nose under the tent with small victories won through deception - such as so-called assault weapons bans. They must deceive to achieve.

After the Heller decision, which struck down the District of Columbia's gun ban, Obama issued a benign statement: "I have always believed that the Second Amendment protects the right of individuals to bear arms, but I also identify with the need for crime-ravaged communities to save their children from the violence that plagues our streets through common-sense, effective safety measures." It went on to explain that he favors measures to keep guns out of the hands of terrorists and criminals. Who could argue with that?

His harmless statement couldn't possibly have been enough to please the Brady Campaign. So what does this organization like about Obama?

In his book "The Heller Case: Gun Rights Affirmed," author Alan Korwin documents that Obama swiftly reversed his position on gun rights the moment the high court ruled that gun rights belong to individuals.

"Before the ban was overturned, Mr. Obama supported the position of the Court's dissenters - that gun bans are fine and the Second Amendment in the Bill of Rights does not protect people, it protects ‘collective rights' of states," Korwin wrote. The court equated the "collective rights" theory to Alice in Wonderland. The book details how Obama's voting record on gun rights is 100 percent consistent; he favored every gun restriction that came along in the Illinois Senate.

Second Amendment defenders should ask Obama to come clean on his true agenda pertaining to gun rights (he's in Colorado on Sunday). Gun rights advocates should keep in mind that Heller was a 5-4 decision, and Obama would likely appoint one, if not two or three, Supreme Court justices.

Americans are well within their rights to elect a president who would work to ban guns, and erode gun rights. But they shouldn't do so by accident. They should vote only with full knowledge of Obama's position on guns, and to date that remains unclear.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; bo; co2008; democrat; democrats; guncontrol; gunvote; obama
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1 posted on 10/27/2008 12:39:09 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Abortion, Gays, and Guns have not been a key point in this campaign. McCain did well in Saddlebrook forum, but hasn’t done much with these issues since.


2 posted on 10/27/2008 12:41:25 PM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: neverdem

He’s a gun grabbing Marxist Communist! What does the NRA say?


3 posted on 10/27/2008 12:44:42 PM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: neverdem

Obama would attempt to negate the 2nd amendment with edicts, circumventing the Constitutionally required process of changing it. Obama is a Marxist, radical socialist, and virtually all socialist dictators have made sure that the citizens don’t have guns. Under Hitler’s National Socialist Party (Nazi), or Stalin’s Communist Party, or Castro’s Communist Cuba, the people could not have their own weapons. If the did, they might have risen up and thrown out their murderous tyrants.

Every American who is eligible (most of us) should buy at least one gun Now and learn how to use it. If you already own a gun, buy another one. This will send a clear message to Obama, the rest of the Demo Socialists, and the other crooks. “The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”


4 posted on 10/27/2008 12:47:57 PM PDT by pleikumud
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To: neverdem

If Obama wins, I predict the congress under pelosi/Reid won’t be able to restrain themselves. Look for a new AWB and whole bunch of new reasonable restrictions.


5 posted on 10/27/2008 1:04:56 PM PDT by umgud (In a crisis, dump gold, buy lead)
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To: TommyDale
"He’s a gun grabbing Marxist Communist! What does the NRA say?"

That you ask proves how effective the MSM has been in throttling any anti-Obama memes. The NRA has been screaming in every way they can that Obama is the most dangerous individual to gun rights ever to run for elective office, and that any gun-owner who votes for him is a damned fool.

6 posted on 10/27/2008 1:10:11 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: neverdem

http://web.archive.org/web/20010422211946/cwn.uchicago.edu/2000w/02.24/news/debate.html

All three said they were in support of gun control legislation, with Obama citing a need for higher taxes on ammunition and registration requirements on firearms, and Trotter citing his 1989 support of background checks and seven-day waiting periods in the State House.


7 posted on 10/27/2008 1:12:15 PM PDT by freespirited (Honk to indict the MSM for treason.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Oh, I already know what the NRA says. My question was rhetorical.


8 posted on 10/27/2008 1:16:01 PM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: pleikumud
Every American who is eligible (most of us) should buy at least one gun Now and learn how to use it. If you already own a gun, buy another one. This will send a clear message to Obama, the rest of the Demo Socialists, and the other crooks. “The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

It looks like many people got a clue over a year ago. Rat primaries have become very revealing. The question is, "Who's interested"? We'll see what happens next Tuesday.

Gun Sales Thriving In Uncertain Times

Law enforcement and industry data and anecdotal reports show that guns are selling well this year. In 2008, there were 8.4 million background checks from Jan. 1 to Sept. 28, compared with 7.7 million in the same period last year, a 9 percent increase, according to the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System.

The increase is also notable because it follows a heavy year for gun purchases, which industry officials and experts link to the Virginia Tech shootings in April 2007 and a burgeoning housing market crisis. NICS checks show a 20 percent increase in April 2007, compared with the previous year.

Those are interesting numbers.

9 posted on 10/27/2008 1:31:06 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: neverdem

Obama’s all for gun rights: He’ll take all your guns and give you the rights to keep your mouth shut.


10 posted on 10/27/2008 1:40:24 PM PDT by Kevmo (I love that sound and please let that baby keep on crying. ~Sarah Palin)
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To: Kevmo

Obama: “I don’t believe people should be able to own guns.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2116714/posts


11 posted on 10/27/2008 1:43:10 PM PDT by Kevmo (I love that sound and please let that baby keep on crying. ~Sarah Palin)
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To: neverdem

0bama will not get Joe Biden’s Baretta shotgun, but, all the rest.


12 posted on 10/27/2008 1:46:46 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (What this country needs is a good 5-cents cigar. - Andrew H. Brown)
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To: All


WSJ.com: "OBAMA vs. McCAIN: IT'S ABOUT YOUR MONEY" (October 27, 2008)

MICHELLE MALKIN.com - blog: "OBAMA IN 2001: HOW TO BRING ABOUT 'REDISTRIBUTIVE CHANGE;' Update: Biden decries 'mean,' 'ugly' questions" (October 26, 2008)

JIHAD WATCH.org (GLOBE AND MAIL.co.uk): "GAZA STUDENTS CALL U.S. VOTERS, ASKING THEM TO SUPPORT OBAMA" (October 27, 2008)

JIHAD WATCH.org (THE SPECTATOR.co.uk, October 24, 2008): "MELANIE PHILLIPS: OBAMA ADOPTS THE AGENDA OF THE JIHADISTS" (October 27, 2008)

GAZETTE.com - Opinion: "Where's Obama on Gun Rights?" (October 22, 2008)



[Post no. 9] - ARCHIVES - Topic: BIDEN & OBAMA (aka B & O) (October 27, 2008 -- Click Here.)

JEFF HEAD.com - Videos: "THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH - Obama In His & His Supporters Own Words"

13 posted on 10/27/2008 2:20:26 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: neverdem

BTTT


14 posted on 10/27/2008 2:21:37 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: neverdem

The NRA is running anti-0bama ads in the battleground states, the last I heard.


15 posted on 10/27/2008 2:46:27 PM PDT by Mogollon
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To: TommyDale
He’s a gun grabbing Marxist Communist! What does the NRA say?

Galvanizing the gun vote - NRA hopes to seal election by painting Obama as no friend of the firearm

16 posted on 10/27/2008 5:04:41 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: neverdem

Does anyone here know just how many Americans belong to the NRA? I went to their website but couldn’t find out. I can’t imagine any NRA member voting for Osama.


17 posted on 10/27/2008 6:28:33 PM PDT by Ax
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To: Always Right
Abortion, Gays, and Guns have not been a key point in this campaign. McCain did well in Saddlebrook forum, but hasn’t done much with these issues since.

McCain has never been big on social issues. I was shocked that he got the nomination. If he wins, I think he'll be fighting with social conservatives from day one. If he wins, it will be because Yobama is truly scary.

18 posted on 10/27/2008 6:41:48 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: Ax
Does anyone here know just how many Americans belong to the NRA? I went to their website but couldn’t find out. I can’t imagine any NRA member voting for Osama.

I was curious about that too... Wikipedia says 4.1 million, but the "About Us" page on nra.org refers to "our nearly three million members". I'm hoping the number's closer to 4.1 million.

19 posted on 10/27/2008 6:44:51 PM PDT by ChuxsterS
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To: Ax
Does anyone here know just how many Americans belong to the NRA?

The group is spending $40 million nationwide this election season to tell its 4 million members — and tens of millions more gun owners — Obama would be the most anti-gun president in history. In Southern Nevada, the NRA has organized 60 volunteers to promote early voting and absentee balloting. Through last week, they had made 3,800 phone calls, visited 1,800 households and dropped 11,500 pieces of campaign literature throughout the Las Vegas Valley.

20 posted on 10/27/2008 6:49:11 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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