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Newsmax Covering Birth Certificate Story on Front Page
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Posted on 10/24/2008 4:31:37 PM PDT by zaker99

A Pennsylvania lawsuit alleging that Barack Obama is not a “natural-born citizen” of the United States took an unusual twist this week, after a federally mandated deadline requiring Obama’s lawyers to produce a “vault” copy of his birth certificate expired with no response from Obama or his lawyers. FULL STORY

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: antichrist; bc; berg; bergvobama; birthcertificate; certifigate; citizen; citizenship; colb; eligibility; lawsuit; obama; obamacrimes; obamagate; obamatruthfile; philipberg; surrick
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Maybe Fox will finally cover this. Even suspicion that something is fishy about this may give voters more doubts about Obama.
1 posted on 10/24/2008 4:31:37 PM PDT by zaker99
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To: zaker99
That's an admission to the truth of all the charges. I guess the original unaltered long vault birth certificate copy doesn't actually exist.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 10/24/2008 4:34:56 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: zaker99

We have 10 days to go. That’s a lot of time in politics. My guess is that FOX News will at least cover it, starting sometime next week.


3 posted on 10/24/2008 4:35:21 PM PDT by library user
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To: zaker99
This has been covered here ad nauseum.
4 posted on 10/24/2008 4:36:09 PM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: zaker99

I would be very interested in knowing the local rules (perhaps I should go look). But a filing of a Motion to Dismiss accompanied by a Motion to Extend Discovery would, typically, obviate the need to respond in that 30 day window,

Having said that, politics aside, there is NO WAY on this planet a judge anywhere would rule against Obama based on a discovery technicality. No judge will rule that a major party candidate isn’t eligible because of a technical violation of a FRCP. If that were the case, than neither McCain nor Obama would be on the ballot in Texas.


5 posted on 10/24/2008 4:36:55 PM PDT by Klepto
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To: zaker99

Front page? I thought Newsmax was a Möbius strip.


6 posted on 10/24/2008 4:37:31 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.)
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To: zaker99
Greta already has on her blog:

OK … the internet rumors about the birth certificate: let’s end the rumors and the viral..
7 posted on 10/24/2008 4:39:19 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: zaker99
The lawsuit, filed by former Pennsylvania Deputy Attorney General Philip J. Berg — a self-avowed supporter of Hillary Clinton — alleges that Barack Obama was born in Kenya and is thus “ineligible” to run for president of the United States.

October surprise courtesy of Hillary!.


8 posted on 10/24/2008 4:39:49 PM PDT by COUNTrecount (de Tocqueville ..."In a democracy the people get the government they deserve". ...)
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To: zaker99

I don’t think we can discuss this here any longer.


9 posted on 10/24/2008 4:40:32 PM PDT by NoLibZone (As insane as McCain is , my principles can't allow someone like Huessein to be president.)
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To: zaker99
Greta had a good idea. Check out this post from her blog.

OK … the internet rumors about the birth certificate: let’s end the rumors and the viral nature of them!

Or read it below:

Of course I know about all the internet gossip about Senator Obama’s birth.  Many of you (thousands?) have written me saying he was not born in the USA  ( a Constitutional requirement for President) …. the rumors are flying around the internet and overloading my inbox and is viral.  It doesn’t stop!   I have thought the emails a waste of keyboard time and have ignored them.

However, since the emails just won’t stop…and since it really is a topic that should be put to rest and can be done with such ease, I now think Senator Obama should release his birth certificate but I also think, to be fair, so should the other 3….yes, all 4.

So, let’s have it! All 4 need to release their birth certificates to prove each was born in the USA and thus constitutionally able to serve as President.  Let’s insist that all 4 release birth certificates and put the matter to rest! (and yes, stop the emails to me!)

Until this is done, the rumors simply will not stop and rumors are not fair…it is not fair to Senator Obama and he also should not be blackmailed into producing the records…so, if all 4 must produce, that seems fair.

Let’s see them….and then let’s move on.


10 posted on 10/24/2008 4:41:52 PM PDT by coffee260 (coffee)
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To: zaker99; Calpernia; LucyT; pissant; SE Mom; Polarik

about freepin’ time this thing started to get out


11 posted on 10/24/2008 4:42:47 PM PDT by Kevmo (I love that sound and please let that baby keep on crying. ~Sarah Palin)
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Maybe Fox will finally cover this. Even suspicion that something is fishy about this may give voters more doubts about Obama.

It certainly has to move beyond Newsmax ... if an October surprise is out there favoring McCain/Palin it needs to break no later than next Thursday.

12 posted on 10/24/2008 4:43:37 PM PDT by BluH2o
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At this point, I believe the msm has tunnel vision on any less then positive obama supportive. It will take Drudge to go big with it and stay until it can’t be ignored by anyone.

I believe getting the story out internationally will help tremendously. If countries and leaders around the world gain knowledge of this story, they will inquire to contacts in the US. Not a back breaker, but its a way to inform and bypass the msm.

It would help if one prominent with a pair of balls would step up to the plate and make it an issue.


13 posted on 10/24/2008 4:44:55 PM PDT by Doug TX
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To: Klepto

It isn’t a “technicality” - as in “some trivial detail” - which is why a failure to respond is deemed to be an admission under the FRCP. It isn’t trivial, and no lawyer wants to go into a courtroom and try to explain how “the dog ate his homework,” particularly when compliance with teh discovery request is genuinely trivial, as it is in this case.

I do agree that no judge will do anything, but it is most likely because the courts have become corrupt and lawless, not because failure to observe the FRCP discovery rules is a mere “technicality”. The only legitimate way that O’s campaign could get away with this is if Berg lacks standing or the court lacks jurisdiction.


14 posted on 10/24/2008 4:47:34 PM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Rudder

I know we have covered this over and over here, but I would guess that most voters have never heard this story. If it does get into the MSM, and Obama isn’t able to disprove it, or tries to dodge it, it may raise doubts with a lot of voters. Just the perception that he’s hiding something may be politically damaging to him, especially in a close race.


15 posted on 10/24/2008 4:47:53 PM PDT by zaker99
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To: zaker99

It is true that failure to respond to a PROPER request for admission can be treated as an admission. However, Obama’s lawyers filed a motion to dismiss this case. That means they have never had to answer the complaint. It also probably means that the time for discovery has not begun. The Court would issue a discovery schedule IF it denies the motion to dismiss. I have very serious doubts that defendants are under any obligation to respond to the request for admissions, and I strongly suspect the court will dismiss this complaint.


16 posted on 10/24/2008 4:49:48 PM PDT by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
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To: zaker99

Are you kidding? The bread and butter of the DBM is to attack on a talk show or front page news and then quietly retract.
Their viewpoint: We did the damage; now let’s be quiet (with MSM complicity) about the obvious truth.


18 posted on 10/24/2008 4:52:27 PM PDT by traintown57
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To: zaker99
I would guess that most voters have never heard this story. If it does get into the MSM, and Obama isn’t able to disprove it, or tries to dodge it, it may raise doubts with a lot of voters

A lot of FReepers have tried to discredit it as damaging to republicans but if it were going to damage republicans the media would be on it like white on rice. It's a democrat fight and can only damage democrats so the media is trying hard to ignore it.
19 posted on 10/24/2008 4:53:21 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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Maybe Fox will finally cover this.

Actually they did run a story on it, albeit I'm not sure how prominently.

20 posted on 10/24/2008 4:53:55 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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