He's a little hazy on how long after birth he thinks ensoulment occurs.
Posted on 09/10/2008 4:31:43 PM PDT by wagglebee
For a topic the mainstream media, liberals and pollsters keep saying no one cares about, the abortion issue sure has been getting a lot of attention lately – have you noticed?
But I digress.
On ABC's "This Week" with George Stephanopoulos this past Sunday, Barack Obama tried to undo the damage he inflicted on himself at the Aug. 16 Saddleback Showdown with his now infamous "above my pay grade" response to Rick Warren's question, "At what point does a baby get human rights, in your view?"
But Obama hadn't learned. He tried once again to redirect the clearly constitutionally based question into something esoteric and religious, and therefore unsolvable:
Obama: "I mean, what I intended to say is that, as a Christian, I have a lot of humility about understanding when does the soul enter into …"Stephanopoulos: "It goes back to Augustine."
Obama: "It does. It's a pretty tough question. And so, all I meant to communicate was that I don't presume to be able to answer these kinds of theological questions. What I do know is that abortion is a moral issue, that it's one that families struggle with all the time, and that in wrestling with those issues, I don't think that the government criminalizing the choices that families make is the best answer for reducing abortions."
Warren clearly had not asked, "When does a baby get a soul?"
Nevertheless, Obama continued to feign ignorance, which begged the next question Stephanopoulos didn't ask: Why so avidly support abortion if you're not sure it may kill innocent human souls?
And what did Obama mean by "abortion is a moral issue"? This begged the next question Stephanopoulos didn't ask, simply, "Why?" What is it about abortion that makes it a moral issue?
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Obama: “I mean, what I intended to say is that, as a Christian, I have a lot of humility about understanding when does the soul enter into
so let’s just kill them all!
Warren asked a legal question to a legal “scholar”. When does a fetus have “legal” rights?
I still maintain he knew before that he was going to be asked that, was given that as an answer by his handlers and just went with what he practiced even after being asked something entirely different.
Which shows he is a good parrot. A moron, but a good parrot.
Obviously it is because they recognize that Obama without a teleprompter speaks in tongues.
"Why so avidly support abortion if you're not sure it may kill innocent human souls?"
They are not trained in Christian ethics or theology. Augustine was discussing outdated theories of pagan philosophers about souls and sensation. But even for them, in the case of a child "born alive" in a botched abortion there would be no question the child was a human being with a soul. So why would that be hard for Obama to figure out? It isn't some deep theological mystery there. Everyone could see it was a living human baby. So why the problem? Why would it be a "tough question" for Mr. Obama at that point? And why doesn't someone ask him that question about "ensoulment" and "live birth" and late abortions???
“so let’s just kill them all!”
EXACTLY!!!!
His great humility requires him to murder them.
Obama’s quite the libertarian when it comes to abortion, yet he has no problem whatsoever limiting free choice (through government action) in many other areas.
That’s the flaw of libertarian thought. People can’t do whatever they want, because no choice is made in isolation. The choices we make in private often DO affect others around us, sometimes harming the society itself.
With abortion, for example, there’s a father and baby involved. The woman cannot make her “choice” without affecting others, so government has the legitimate right to restrict or eliminate abortion.
Obama’s support of infanticide - killing helpless children in the most brutal manner - has already validated his ticket to Hell. Those that enable him, will be strap hangers along for the ride.
It goes back to, “In the beginning God...” Way before Augustine. Dumb.
That's the money quote. Abortion is homicide. A human child is killed. Neither his Reverand-Wright influenced theological conundrums nor is navel gazing about how humble he is (!) have anything to do with the issue.
Notice he also talks banning baby killing as not being the best solution to lower the number of baby killings. I can't believe the interviewer lets that answer slide by.
Senator Obama intends to widen the availability of abortion and subsidize it. His rheteric is disingenuous.
Yep. We have folks who want to block Wal-Marts because they don't trust people with the decision of where to shop, but when it comes to homicide, they trusts that judgment absolutely. The junior senator from Illinois tells us homicide by abortion is a choice that he trusts people with. Senator Obama frequent and perhaps incessant dissembling tells us that he doesn't even trust us with the choice of who to vote for.
You know... This campaign season has done so much to expose the true “pro-abortion” stance of the left. I mean perhaps my view is a little skewed being that I’m on this ping list, and because I’m a “political junkie” so to speak, but over the last few weeks it seems like so many people are starting to debate this issue more and more.
An anecdotal story: My daughter (Izzy_Box) created a few Pro-Life “stamp” graphics on a major artist’s community website. When she first posted the graphics she got the typical rude and mean comments. However, she is starting to notice more and more supportive comments showing up in the last few weeks. I know it may not mean a lot, but seeing as the vast majority of members on the site could be described as VERY liberal, I see this as a good thing. Perhaps younger people really are starting to “wake up”? I hope and pray that’s true...
After seeing the video clips from his church, it looked like a theological misadventure.
What?!?
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