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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: Tennessee Nana

Love this answer. McCain doesn’t just pontificate about adoption & helping orphans - he’s lived it.


1,241 posted on 08/16/2008 6:51:16 PM PDT by BCrago66
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To: MinuteGal

That 148 million number is suspect. It works out to more than one in every fifty human beings on the planet is an orphan child.

Does not compute to me!


1,242 posted on 08/16/2008 6:51:27 PM PDT by maica (Peace is the Aftermath of Victory)
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To: Islander7

I love that . Obama toast..ha


1,243 posted on 08/16/2008 6:51:34 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: FocusNexus

LOL

I thought the same

He mentioned 1 1/2 million people work for EBay ????????


1,244 posted on 08/16/2008 6:51:35 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: eeevil conservative

I say: more applause and much louder .. I think
he’s hit several home runs ... whew and thank God!


1,245 posted on 08/16/2008 6:51:40 PM PDT by STARWISE ((They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: Theodore R.
CA people would go over the cliff for Oprah and Obama

LOL--agreed, and I live here...

1,246 posted on 08/16/2008 6:51:44 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: Petronski

Never have I seen him do this well.

Grand slam.


1,247 posted on 08/16/2008 6:51:53 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: scott says

WORD.


1,248 posted on 08/16/2008 6:51:53 PM PDT by aligncare
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To: HonestConservative
Tell me why the use of “my friends” irritates me like nails on a blackboard.

It irritates me, too, but not nearly as much as listening to Obama say "uhhhhh"....

1,249 posted on 08/16/2008 6:51:55 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: BCrago66

Adoption not abortion


1,250 posted on 08/16/2008 6:52:11 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: All

Why do you want to be president?

“I want to inspire a generation of Americans to serve a cause greater than their self-interest.”

What inarticulate mumbo-jumbo was Obama’s response to that question?


1,251 posted on 08/16/2008 6:52:22 PM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: AliVeritas

I wonder what he said when his wife showed up at the airport with the baby from Mother Theresas? LOL


1,252 posted on 08/16/2008 6:52:22 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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To: scott says

Ditto. The MSM is going to have to work hard to make sure Obama doesn’t get slaughtered in the debates.


1,253 posted on 08/16/2008 6:52:23 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Tennessee Nana

I think he was saying that 1.5 million folks were making a living using Ebay.


1,254 posted on 08/16/2008 6:52:31 PM PDT by keepitreal ("I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message. . . until I don't.")
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To: Petronski
McCain has a lifetime of stories and experiences to tell and rely on.

All Obama has is his racist, America-hating pastor.

1,255 posted on 08/16/2008 6:52:34 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Tennessee Nana

No he said 1 and a half million make a living from E bay.


1,256 posted on 08/16/2008 6:52:39 PM PDT by HonestConservative (There certainly must be radio in heaven, or at least a rock band.)
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To: Son House

ROFL ... thweet little Lindsey in a vest!!! OOh my.


1,257 posted on 08/16/2008 6:52:58 PM PDT by STARWISE ((They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: Tennessee Nana

LOL

I thought the same

He mentioned 1 1/2 million people work for EBay ????????

1.5 million make a LIVING from eBay, not employed there.


1,258 posted on 08/16/2008 6:53:04 PM PDT by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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To: HonestConservative

Probably because it is used repeatedly in the nonsense intro to ‘Plan Nine from Outer Space’

and remember friends...future events such as these may affect you in the future!


1,259 posted on 08/16/2008 6:53:04 PM PDT by modest proposal (Congress (n). Place where you can be supported in comfort by the state to talk stupid)
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Goober in the audience is about to burst!


1,260 posted on 08/16/2008 6:53:04 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Stay Away FAY!)
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