Posted on 07/31/2008 3:19:18 PM PDT by pissant
**FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE TO THE MAIN STREAM**
Obama Lies About His Birth Records and His Identity: Evidence Revealed
The mystery of Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate is virtually solved. The findings have been documented in a series of reports published on two blogs, No Quarter and TexasDarlin, no thanks to the Main Stream Media, which has universally ignored this matter.
(Links and disclaimers are at the end; assertions and assumptions are based on good-faith understandings of the truth. The remainder of this post represents draft theories.)
Summary of Obama’s Deception
Barack Obama has misled and deceived the American public about his dual identity, dual citizenship, religious background, and birth records.
He was, and possibly still is, a citizen of Indonesia.
Contrary to Obama’s public statements that he’s “always been a Christian” Obama was at one time a Muslim.
His Hawaiian Birth Certificate reveals the legal name Barry Soetoro. His original Birth Certificate, with the name Barack H. Obama, was sealed.
That is why the Birth Certificate published on his campaign website “FightTheSmears” is fake. Barack Obama does not want you to know about his Soetoro identity. Obama’s Deception: The Details
The Fake Birth Certificate: The Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) published on the Obama Campaign’s website “FightTheSmears” has been falsified. Two experts with combined experience of more than 60 years in document analysis and computer forensics are willing to testify if necessary. I have seen their professional qualifications; trust me, they would pass the “expert witness” test with flying colors. Their latest reports are provided below.
Indonesian Citizenship: Obama acquired Indonesian citizenship when he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro, his step-father. He may still have Indonesian citizenship.
When was Obama going to disclose his Indonesian identity to the American electorate? The legal issues related to dual citizenship can be reasonably argued, and possibly will be.
But the immediate problem at this time, on the eve of the Democratic Convention, is that the “presumed nominee” has lied to the American public by intentionally withholding key information about his background and identity.
Religious Background: Obama underestimated the tolerance of Americans in accepting his Muslim background. As Lolo Soetoro’s son, Barry Soetoro was a Muslim in Indonesia. But Obama has publicly proclaimed that he’s “never been a Muslim.” This claim is highlighted on his “FightTheSmears” website.
Obama has flat-out lied about this part of his life.
Will we hold him accountable for these deceptions? Dual Citizenship Could Disqualify Obama from the Presidency
Obama has hidden the truth about his Indonesian identity and citizenship because it could disqualify him under Article II of the Constitution. So he thought he’d just ignore it.
Again, the legal issues can be reasonably argued, but when was Obama planning to tell the truth?
For a comprehensive analysis of the legal issues, see Judah Benjamin’s articles (links below). He lays out a strong argument that Obama is ineligible based on Art. II. New Theory of Birth Certificate Events
Based on Judah Benjamin’s research, backed up by Polarik’s and Techdude’s analyses, I published my new theory of events on Wednesday in Birth Certificate: Obama, Soetoro, or Dunham?
Theory of Birth Certificate Events: 1. Obama was born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, with the legal name Barack Hussein Obama II, and Barack H. Obama Sr. was identified as his legal father. [NOTE: an alternative theory, that Obama was born in Canada, is still being researched.]
2. Obama was adopted by Lolo Soetoro in Hawaii sometime around 1965-1966.
3. As part of the adoption procedure, pursuant to Hawaiian law, Obama’s original Birth Certificate (BC) was SEALED, and a new Birth Certificate was issued with his new name, Barry Soetoro, and the name of his new father, Lolo Soetoro.
4. Mother and son joined Soetoro in Indonesia, where Barry Soetoro was registered in school as Lolo’s son, a Muslim, and a citizen of Indonesia.
5. After approximately 4 years, Barry Soetoro returned to Hawaii as a U.S. citizen to live with his grandparents, the Dunhams, and attend private school.
6. At some point before his 18th birthday, he most likely changed his legal name back to Barack Hussein Obama, but his Birth Certificate would not have been modified again unless there was another adoption (by the Dunhams, for example).
Among the questions asked therein: If any or all of these hypothesized facts are TRUE, why has Senator Obama deceived the American public, and will the public hold him accountable for the deceptions? CONCLUSION
It is theorized that:
Barack Obama has misled the American people about his background and his identity. The deception involves an intentional initiative to conceal records related to his birth and his childhood. These records would demonstrate that he acquired Indonesian citizenship when his step-father, Lolo Soetoro, adopted him; he was a practicing Muslim; his current Birth Certificate is in the legal name of Barry Soetoro; and he may still hold Indonesian citizenship today.
Barack Obama has undertaken a concerted and systematic effort to alter, delete, or hide records about his personal and professional life. His secrecy is unprecedented among presidential candidates in American History.
What will our Democratic Party leadership do to ensure that a vetted candidate is nominated for President?
Some things we know for sure.
1. Barack/Barry Hussein Obama/Soetoro is a chronic liar.
2. Any attempt to challenge his version of the “facts” will unleash howls of outrage and result in the entire deck of race cards being slammed on the table.
3. The mainstream media are completely invested in seeing him elected president. Those few that aren’t are thoroughly cowed (i.e. Fox News), in to PC acceptance of Obama’s “sincerity”.
4. He is a hardcore socialist who will turn this country on its head.
And even though I can’t stand that sister, I hopes she does!!!!!
What the heck do I know about such things? I only held one of those though SBI for a little over 30 years.
Some were fun though, like on the very first one, I'd put as a reference the dad of one of my HS friends. I hadn't known that he was born in Canada and had Naturalized as a US Citizen via service in the US Army during WW II. The DIS dug into his background quite deeply. My friend's Dad asked me latter what the heck I was up to that required him to prove AGAIN that he was a US patriot. I could never tell him.
Remember that bit last year about someone checking the passport files of the candidates? I think it would have come out then, but maybe not. I don’t think that stuff is public record or the breach would not have been noteworthy.
I disagree on the SSN. I refused numbers at the children’s births in the hospital so they had to produce birth certificates upon application. They also used it for their drivers licenses, but in Florida you can produce other forms of ID, as long as there are two.
The vetting of me for my clearance may have been the most exciting thing to happen to some of my neighbors, friends and relatives.
On my last trip to my home area, people still talked about it and wondered what I did or wanted to do. That was 40 years after the vetting questions.
Are you saying that a child adopted by a step-parent of another nationality would take the citizenship of the adoptive parent, rather than the citizenship of the natural parent, who is still in the picture? That makes no sense to me. Also, most countries have strict requirements for citizenship which usually include residency for a number of years. Was Obama even in Indonesia long enough to gain citizenship? What are the requirements in Indonesia? Does Indonesia even offer citizenship to immigrants? Some countries don’t.
She would have renounced her citizenship a while after Obama was born, since she didn’t marry Soetero and move to Indonesia until Obama was a couple years old. So he wouldn’t have been born to a renounced citizen.
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Do you or anyone on this thread know the cause of death of Obama’s mother?
He did not have to. The Indonesian oath of citizenship is not binding under US law. To renounce citizenship, you have to state before a consular officer that you intend to renounce your citizenship. Or undertake specific acts that show intent. Did you not read about the Marc Rich case (remember him?) referenced in my post concerning the Spanish oath of citizenship? It's provision renouncing prior citizenship was not considered binding by US law, because of Marc Rich's lack of intent to surrender his US Citizenship.
No law of any other nation can strip an American of his citizenship. Indonesian law only determines Indonesian citizneship. Only US law determines who is an American.
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Why is there such a law on our books?
You cannot answer that, I can and it is simple, our government recognizes that a minor child’s US citizenship can be removed by the actions of a parent, that’s why we have a means by which someone that reaches an age where they can express their desire to be an American citizen can reaffirm that desire for the record and that they have a choice to do so or not by their actions.
I appreciate the gravity and value of exposing efforts by Obama and his underlings to alter his own official history,however, since Obama’s mother is a US citizen - he is automatically a US citizen, and even if the issue of dual citizenship was proved to be extant, Obama could pre-empt such an argument by an official renunciation of any citizenship other than American...
That much written, I still do not trust him one iota, agree with any of his policies positions, nor do I like him or believe him qualified to be mayor of a small town, never mind President of the US.
A.A.C.
Haven’t seen any comment about this, perhaps I’ve missed it:
If Stanley Ann and BO Sr. were married in the US, there should be a divorce paper somewhere that is dated in advance of her “2nd” marriage.
Why is there such a law on our books?Read SEC. 349. [8 U.S.C. 1481] (a) again carefully.You cannot answer that, I can and it is simple, our government recognizes that a minor child’s US citizenship can be removed by the actions of a parent, that’s why we have a means by which someone that reaches an age where they can express their desire to be an American citizen can reaffirm that desire for the record and that they have a choice to do so or not by their actions.
(a) A person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by voluntarily performing any of the following acts with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality-Clause 1 and 2 don't apply to Obama because the act in question would have happened before having attained the age of eighteen years. This means that a parent cannot terminate a child's American citizenship.(1) obtaining naturalization in a foreign state upon his own application or upon an application filed by a duly authorized agent, after having attained the age of eighteen years; or(2) taking an oath or making an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after having attained the age of eighteen years; or
Clause 3 and 4 don't apply to Obama because he never served in a foreign military.(3) entering, or serving in, the armed forces of a foreign state if(A) such armed forces are engaged in hostilities against the United States, or(4)(B) such persons serve as a commissioned or non-commissioned officer; or
(A) accepting, serving in, or performing the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after attaining the age of eighteen years if he has or acquires the nationality of such foreign state; or(B) accepting, serving in, or performing the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after attaining the age of eighteen years for which office, post, or employment an oath, affirmation, or declaration of allegiance is required; or
Clause 5 has never been alleged.(5) making a formal renunciation of nationality before a diplomatic or consular officer of the United States in a foreign state, in such form as may be prescribed by the Secretary of State; or
Clause 6 has never been alledged and even it it were the US was not in declared state of war at the time.(6) making in the United States a formal written renunciation of nationality in such form as may be prescribed by, and before such officer as may be designated by, the Attorney General, whenever the United States shall be in a state of war and the Attorney General shall approve such renunciation as not contrary to the interests of national defense; or
Clause 7 has never been alleged.(7) committing any act of treason against, or attempting by force to overthrow, or bearing arms against, the United States, violating or conspiring to violate any of the provisions of section 2383 of title 18, United States Code, or willfully performing any act in violation of section 2385 of title 18, United States Code, or violating section 2384 of said title by engaging in a conspiracy to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, if and when he is convicted thereof by a court martial or by a court of competent jurisdiction.
Now read SEC. 351. [8 U.S.C. 1483] (b) again.
(b) A national who within six months after attaining the age of eighteen years asserts his claim to United States nationality, in such manner as the Secretary of State shall by regulation prescribe, shall not be deemed to have lost United States nationality by the commission, prior to his eighteenth birthday, of any of the acts specified in paragraphs (3) and (5) of section 349(a) of this title.This clause only applies to people who have lost their citizenship before the age of 18 under paragraphs (3) and (5) of section 349(a).
Obama did not enter, or serve "in, the armed forces of a foreign state" as in paragraph (3).; and
Obama did not make "a formal renunciation of nationality before a diplomatic or consular officer of the United States in a foreign state, in such form as may be prescribed by the Secretary of State;". as in paragraph (5).
Obama could not have lost his citizenship because no clause of SEC. 349. [8 U.S.C. 1481] applies him.
There was no reason for Obama to reaffirm his citizenship since SEC. 351. [8 U.S.C. 1483](b) only applies to people who have served in a foreign military or made a formal renunciation of nationality before a diplomatic or consular officer of the United States. Neither describes Obama's case.
Bottom line, Obama continues to be a natural born citizen of the United States. He cannot be defeated this way.
“Does this also mean that the Messiah has NEVER been baptized Christian?”
There isn’t any mention anywhere of any kind of ceremony ever having been performed. Obama states he “walked down the aisle” in the church and that’s when he became Christian.
and if several states refuse to list him on their ballot, he’s lost. How will the RATS handle this?
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