Obama Slams Rush at Fundraiser, as Disenfranchised Protest Outside
Posted on 05/28/2008 7:15:58 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
DNC: Fla., Mich. Can't Be Fully Restored By AP/NEDRA PICKLER
(WASHINGTON) — A Democratic Party rules committee has the authority to seat some delegates from Michigan and Florida but not fully restore the two states as Hillary Rodham Clinton wants, according to party lawyers.
Democratic National Committee rules require that the two states lose at least half of their convention delegates for holding elections too early, the party's legal experts wrote in a 38-page memo.
The memo was sent late Tuesday to the 30 members of the party's Rules and Bylaws Committee, which plans to meet Saturday at a Washington hotel. The committee is considering ways to include the two important general election battlegrounds at the nominating convention in August, and the staff analysis says seating half the delegates is "as far as it legally can" go.
Saturday's meeting is expected to draw a large crowd, with Clinton supporters among those encouraging a protest outside demanding that all the states' delegates be seated. Proponents of full reseating have mailed committee members Florida oranges and pairs of shoes to get their attention.
DNC officials are concerned about a potentially large turnout at the "Count Every Vote" rally outside the event and have asked the hotel staff to increase security to keep everyone safe. The DNC says the roughly 500 seats available to the public inside were taken within three or four minutes of becoming available online Tuesday.
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Right on! Boycott these clowns.
Or the Clintons are in shock and denial, having expected a coronation. Bill sounds like a lunatic. Hillary is increasingly making crazy, manic faces - stretching her mouth wide open and smiling and cackling at inappropriate times.
Presidential she is not.
For the good of the country, why don't they all get lost?
Do you mean they are actually sending them Obama voters???
AMAZING!!!!
“Lawsuit time..” ~ Eric in the Ozarks
Hee hee hee
Obama: Illegitimate Nominee?
May 22, 2008
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_052208/content/01125107.member.html
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RUSH: Let’s go back to the Democrat Party nomination process here, shall we, ladies and gentlemen? As I said back on May 7th, it has become clear to me (and I think to all the Democrats, too) that the only way Obama can sail to victory here is by not counting votes, specifically the votes of Michigan and Florida. Now, what does that say, that the Democrat Party’s nominee was only able to capture the prize because votes in two states were not counted? Now, after having listened to Mrs. Clinton from yesterday in Boca Raton, Florida, I have to agree with her. If Barack Obama becomes the Democrat nominee, and if he becomes the nominee without counting the vote in Florida and Michigan, I have to agree with Hillary that Obama’s nomination will then be illegitimate. If Obama becomes the Democrat nominee by virtue of fixing the vote — by refusing to accept the votes of the Democrats in Florida, by refusing to accept the votes of the Democrats in Michigan — then Obama is an illegitimate nominee for president.
[]Barack Obama: On the verge of becoming the illegitimate nominee of the Democrat Party. This is what they said after Florida 2000. Bush was an illegitimate president. Back then, by the way — people forget this — Algore, who has established the precedent now of litigating election results... As I suggested yesterday, by the way, to Mrs. Clinton: Do what the Democrat Party is known for: Sue! Litigate. If you don’t get what you want after Florida and Michigan, litigate. You can use the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution equal-protection clause — and in your case, Mrs. Clinton, you’ll be asking that all votes be counted. Algore, in the Florida aftermath of 2000, was not asking for all votes to be recounted. He only wanted the votes recounted in three counties, all Democrat counties: Miami-Dade, Broward, and of course (our very own, home of the hanging chads) Palm Beach County.
Mrs. Clinton could go Algore one better. If necessary, litigate under the Fourteenth Amendment, equal-protection clause, count all the votes. And, Mrs. Clinton, you need to get your spokesman out there and you need to start using the words “illegitimate nominee.” You might not want to make that direct attack. You might want to say, “The party will have produced an illegitimate result.” Blame it on Dean; throw it back to the party. Speak as a proud Democrat — and you, as a proud Democrat, having served in the White House for two terms (blah, blah, blah) you don’t want the party to be accused or even, in reality, be a party of illegitimacy by virtue of not having counted all the votes. Yeah, I know. The rules were the rules for Florida and Michigan. “The Democrat Party has no rules,” you tell ‘em. “The Democrat Party has customs, and among them: Every vote counts.”
RUSH: Look, it’s real simple. Obama is cruising to becoming an illegitimate nominee of the Democrat Party, because every vote will not have been counted. Hillary’s right. He would be the illegitimate nominee. I mean, look, this is the same party, ladies and gentlemen, that complains about voter IDs. I mean what a joke. Voter IDs, now they’re disenfranchising millions of voters, minority voters especially, because the state parties didn’t bow to the DNC and Howard “George Wallace” Dean. How can they nominate anybody if the guy can only win by having votes not count? I mean, that would not only taint Obama as illegitimate, it would destroy their entire ability to go back and use Florida 2000 as an attack against Republicans. You Democrats cannot afford to give that up. You gotta be able to use Florida 2000 for the rest of our political lives. If you don’t do this, if you allow votes to not be counted, if you purposely reject votes from Florida and Michigan, then you can never with credibility use Florida 2000 and talk about how votes didn’t count, Supreme Court chose the president, Bush was illegitimate ‘cause you are on the way to nominating Barack Obama as an illegitimate nominee for the presidency of the United States from your party. It is something else for you superdelegates to put in the hopper and think about. ...” Listen To It! [] Audio clips available for Rush 24/7 members only — Join Now!
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LOL! Only a lawyer could think that 38 pages is a memo.
Its a short story...
I would find it amazing that they would have 38 pages of rules, much less need 38 pages to explain that some rule only allows half the delegates to be seated.
These are the total jokes, liars and crooks who will probably have a filibuster, veto proof mandate after the elections. We’re in BIG trouble.
Bush’s legacy , other than WOT, will be awful. We blew our chance.
Yeah, like lawyers ever call the shots about anything. :’) It ain’t over until it’s over.
If they only distribute half the delegate votes...It cuts into Obama’s total and he will need MORE uncommitted delegates to get to the magic number. VERY CLEVER!!
Aw, shucks, it’s those rules again! This has been the most fun dem primary in recent memory.
I read on the leftie sites that some Hillary! supporters are going to be there to ‘demonstrate’ for Hillary, and are bringing their pots and pans. I hope the news covers the silly spectacle. Imagine, feminists banging pots and pans for Hillary!
Count each as 3/5ths of a vote. Yowsa.
Hey DNC! I got at least half of each state for you right here...
This is a return to the smoke-filled backroom era of Democratic politics. Their dilemma is intriguing: accredit a full delegation with half votes, or half a delegation with full votes? It is a critical decision for Hillary’s inevitable battle in the credentials committee.
CNN: Florida court throws out DNC suit 10:45 AM ET
This just demonstrats that democrats want “aristocracy veto”
IOW if voters pass a referendum, they want a veto by judge.
IOW if they don’t like the primary, superdelegates can overide the voters.
The Clintons are finding out that they are losing control of their party after sixteen years, and they are outraged about it. Howard Dean is clearly steering this nomination to Obama. In their minds, they'll blame Terry McAuliffe for allowing Dean to take his place.
The Democratic Party does not have to look at the primary votes at all to make a decision. They can make deals at the convention (or before) and do what they want and pick who they believe will best serve the party's interests - they already set this up with the superdelegate nonsense.
I'd be surprised if the courts even hear her case. There must be precedent on this - does anyone know about previous case law on this?
BTW - if a court were to rule that the if the Party has rules in place and they must be followed to determine who must be chosen as the nominee, Clinton is done. The rules state that no more than 50% of the delegates can be seated if the primary rules are violated. She's going out of her way to destroy Obama. She know's she can't get the nomination, but if she makes him unelectable in November she has another opportunity in 2012. If Obama were to win in November - the Clinton's are gone for good.
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