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To: old-and-old
"Booohoo. People lie to get papers"

Interesting how you admit to Albanians lying about that when confronted by the evidence. They were caught lying on a massive scale which included making up stories.

Yet your small brain doesn't consider the Albanians (and other Balkanites) ability to lie and make up stories for their propaganda.

They were even caught inventing atrocity stories - claiming people were killed by the Serbs when those people were later found alive, well and unscathed.

A Canadian reporter did a documentary following an 18-year-old Kosovo Albanian girl, Rajmonda, who in the beginning (late 1998) was in a hospital said to be recovering from the shock of her little 6-year-old sister killed by the Serbs.

Later the reporter visited and the girl was a KLA soldier. The reporter, Nancy Durham, had always wanted to visit Rajmonda's home but Rajmonda kept telling her it was too dangerous.

After the war, however, Nancy Durham went to Rajmonda's home and saw the claimed murdered sister alive, well, unscathed and completely oblivious to Rajmonda's tale.

At first Rajmonda and her parents tried to deny it and claim it was another girl, but the reporter combed through the family albums as she sat on a couch in their home, and realized the family was lying.

Finally Rajmonda did admit she lied and said it was the KLA doctors who had trained her to lie. Rajmonda was already a KLA soldier in the beginning when she posed lying on the bed pretending to be in shock.

Here is one report on the story. The original documentary had aired in Canada and many other nations and I'm sure if you'd seen it you'd believe in Rajmonda's lying claims. I'm sure if the truth was discovered people who still be showing the documentary as evidence of Serb atrocities.

CONNED IN KOSOVO: A CBC REPORTER'S DILEMMA HOW TO RESPOND WHEN A TALE OF ATROCITY ISN'T TRUE?

HALIFAX, NOVA SCOTIA -- When Nancy Durham first discovered that she had been lied to, her reaction was "the most incredible sinking feeling."

Ms. Durham, a Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) television reporter, had returned to Kosovo in June of this year, to do a follow-up piece on an 18-year-old girl who had joined the Kosovo Liberation Army after her young sister had been killed by Serbs. The girl's story had been part of a larger piece that aired on the CBC in January, to much critical praise. Yet as Durham stood in the doorway of the family's home in Skenderaj, the sister who was supposed to have been killed was standing there, alive and well.

Rather than trying to excuse or brush off the lie, or have the CBC do a simple correction, Durham decided to do a full story - not only about the girl who told it, but what it said about how news is reported from a war zone.

The result is a 16-minute report: "The Truth About Rajmonda: A KLA Soldier Lies for the Cause." It's being hailed by many media observers in Canada as a breakthrough piece that should serve as a model for other news organizations.

Durham's involvement with Rajmonda Rreci began in September 1998 while she was filming a piece on an Albanian doctor. Rajmonda, a patient, told Durham on camera that she was joining the KLA to avenge the death of her six-year old sister. Durham (who works as a one-woman reporting "team") returned in December 1998 and tracked down Ms. Rreci. During that interview, Rreci said that her sister was fortunate to die for Kosovo, and that she would do the same.

Then in June, almost as soon as NATO-led peacekeeping troops went into the region, Durham went back. It was during this trip she learned that Rreci had lied. When confronted, she told Durham that she had actually thought her sister was dead, but wasn't sure, and that doctors in the hospital had encouraged her to tell the story because other girls had lost sisters to the Serbs.

"My first thoughts were 'This is a disaster,' " says Durham. "I had this passion for the people in the story. I felt really depressed. If this happens to me, I thought, and I go back again, and again, and again, how many other journalists has this happened to?" Durham returned to her home in Oxford, England, and thought about what she wanted to do. And although some media critics have said that the CBC pushed her to go back to do the report, Durham says this is untrue. She says she needed to go back, find Rajmonda Rreci again, and this time tell the true story.

It turned out that most of what the teenager had said wasn't true. She had actually been a member of the KLA before she went to the hospital and had known all along that her sister was alive. But Rreci continued to stress that other Kosovar girls had lost their sisters, and why shouldn't she do it for them? Ultimately, Rreci did admit that what she said was just KLA propaganda…


57 posted on 05/18/2008 3:27:17 PM PDT by joan
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To: joan

Belgrade Bobic.

“We lie to deceive ourselves, to console others; we lie for mercy, we lie to fight fear, to encourage ourselves, to hide our and somebody else’s misery. We lie for love and honesty. We lie because of freedom. Lying is the trait of our patriotism and the proof of our innate smartness. We lie creatively, imaginatively, inventively.”
The father of Serbia, Dobrica Cosic.

But when you lie or try to distract too much, people no longer believe you. By the way, how's Djordje Martinović doing? Oh, wait they are no gays in Serbia either.

The latest Serbian lie: US, has kidnapped Serbs as guinea pigs in its German bases and CIA paid the Albanians for them--from Del Ponte's Serbian source:

"She [the source] said that the healthiest males up to age of 45 were picked out among the imprisoned Serbs from Kosovo and Metohija, and transferred to U.S. military bases abroad, especially in Germany and Italy. Allegedly two missing Serb men from Kosovo and Metohija were seen in the U.S. base in Wiesbaden. She didn't know what was done with the abducted Serbs in those bases but there are indications that they were used as guinea pigs.

"Anyone who tried to escape would end up under the knife together with the others who were taken to the camps in Albania. Current and former Albanian premiers Sali Berisha and Fatos Nano were involved with the blessing of Bernard Kouchner, former UNMIK head and currently French foreign minister, a physician. Also involved were Ramush Haradinaj and his brother Daut, Agim Cheku and Hashim Thaci, as well as Halim Omer Osmani, Muhamed Luti, Enes Elmazi," recounted Mitrovic.

She said that in 2001 and 2002 some Serbian politicians, primarily belonging to the opposition at that time, were collecting money to find the kidnapped Serbs. The final sum was several hundred thousand German marks. Through the intercession of U.S. CIA Lieutenant-Colonel Michael Shaw (sp?) the money was given to a certain Kosovo Albanian. The Kosovo Albanian learned a lot but he was caught and killed, said Mitrovic." http://byzantinesacredart.com/blog/2008/04/kouchner-role.html

All you need to do is add Martians and I'll believe it. Are you still calling us Americans "Nazis" for "bombing your monasteries"?

"From 1998 to the present, the Serbian Orthodox Church has claimed that NATO deliberately bombed Serbian Orthodox Monasteries and other sacred monuments. These accusations can still be found Serbian Orthodox Church WEB sites and in other forums. After thorough investigation, it turned out that these accusations were complete fabrications.

For an op-ed piece refuting the accusations of the Serbian Orthodox Church, see the Kosovo Current Crisis Web page, Michael Sells, How Serbian Orthodox Church Leaders Used Monasteries to Entice Ethnic Hatred. The same article also appears on the web-page of the Kosova Crisis Center.

In claiming that NATO was engaged in systematic annihilation of Serbian religious heritage in Kosovo, the Serbian Orthodox Church used the same fabrications it used in 1986 when it claimed that Kosovar Albanians were annihilating Serbian Monasteries, engaged in organized rape against Serbian women, and carrying out genocide against Serb. These accusations were shown Serbian journalists to be fabrications, but they were nevertheless taken up by Serbian intellectuals in the famous SANU Memorandum that is considered to have been the death knell of the former Yugoslavia."
http://www.haverford.edu/relg/sells/reports.html#Sells_SUC
59 posted on 05/18/2008 11:07:58 PM PDT by old-and-old
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