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To: joan

Belgrade Bobic.

“We lie to deceive ourselves, to console others; we lie for mercy, we lie to fight fear, to encourage ourselves, to hide our and somebody else’s misery. We lie for love and honesty. We lie because of freedom. Lying is the trait of our patriotism and the proof of our innate smartness. We lie creatively, imaginatively, inventively.”
The father of Serbia, Dobrica Cosic.

But when you lie or try to distract too much, people no longer believe you. By the way, how's Djordje Martinović doing? Oh, wait they are no gays in Serbia either.

The latest Serbian lie: US, has kidnapped Serbs as guinea pigs in its German bases and CIA paid the Albanians for them--from Del Ponte's Serbian source:

"She [the source] said that the healthiest males up to age of 45 were picked out among the imprisoned Serbs from Kosovo and Metohija, and transferred to U.S. military bases abroad, especially in Germany and Italy. Allegedly two missing Serb men from Kosovo and Metohija were seen in the U.S. base in Wiesbaden. She didn't know what was done with the abducted Serbs in those bases but there are indications that they were used as guinea pigs.

"Anyone who tried to escape would end up under the knife together with the others who were taken to the camps in Albania. Current and former Albanian premiers Sali Berisha and Fatos Nano were involved with the blessing of Bernard Kouchner, former UNMIK head and currently French foreign minister, a physician. Also involved were Ramush Haradinaj and his brother Daut, Agim Cheku and Hashim Thaci, as well as Halim Omer Osmani, Muhamed Luti, Enes Elmazi," recounted Mitrovic.

She said that in 2001 and 2002 some Serbian politicians, primarily belonging to the opposition at that time, were collecting money to find the kidnapped Serbs. The final sum was several hundred thousand German marks. Through the intercession of U.S. CIA Lieutenant-Colonel Michael Shaw (sp?) the money was given to a certain Kosovo Albanian. The Kosovo Albanian learned a lot but he was caught and killed, said Mitrovic." http://byzantinesacredart.com/blog/2008/04/kouchner-role.html

All you need to do is add Martians and I'll believe it. Are you still calling us Americans "Nazis" for "bombing your monasteries"?

"From 1998 to the present, the Serbian Orthodox Church has claimed that NATO deliberately bombed Serbian Orthodox Monasteries and other sacred monuments. These accusations can still be found Serbian Orthodox Church WEB sites and in other forums. After thorough investigation, it turned out that these accusations were complete fabrications.

For an op-ed piece refuting the accusations of the Serbian Orthodox Church, see the Kosovo Current Crisis Web page, Michael Sells, How Serbian Orthodox Church Leaders Used Monasteries to Entice Ethnic Hatred. The same article also appears on the web-page of the Kosova Crisis Center.

In claiming that NATO was engaged in systematic annihilation of Serbian religious heritage in Kosovo, the Serbian Orthodox Church used the same fabrications it used in 1986 when it claimed that Kosovar Albanians were annihilating Serbian Monasteries, engaged in organized rape against Serbian women, and carrying out genocide against Serb. These accusations were shown Serbian journalists to be fabrications, but they were nevertheless taken up by Serbian intellectuals in the famous SANU Memorandum that is considered to have been the death knell of the former Yugoslavia."
http://www.haverford.edu/relg/sells/reports.html#Sells_SUC
59 posted on 05/18/2008 11:07:58 PM PDT by old-and-old
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To: old-and-old

Some old stuff, Bonly-boy.

What would the Jihdists do without you.


60 posted on 05/19/2008 4:27:59 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: old-and-old
Do you do any more than cut and paste and regurgitate old anti-Serb propaganda.

There are documented photos of destroyed Serbian Orthodox churches - which were looted, burned and/or blown up under watch of KFOR (NATO's ground forces). Those who blew up the churches showed high degree of knowledge of explosives and obviously had large quantities of it.

This was all done during supposed "peace time" and not in the thick of the war.

During war churches and mosques were sometimes collateral damage, sometimes targeted because soldiers used them or stored supplies in them, sometimes the enemy army was hiding behind them - the last from a man who served with the Muslim army in Bosnia. He said they were better at destroying things than building things. He was hired by SFOR (NATO forces in Bosnia) to help them locate buried land mines, but he couldn't orient himself because so much of the landscape had changed during wars. He did say that they, forces for the Bosnian Muslim army, did sometimes destroy churches or their own mosques "if the enemy was behind them".

The Catholic churches in Serbia are entirely undamaged. Not even graffiti on them. There are Muslims within Serbia who've lived there during the wars and to this day. They and all the other ethnicities have freedom of movement and access to their homes, they weren't fired from their jobs in Serbia they way Serbs were mass fired by Croats and written out of the constitution, etc.

61 posted on 05/19/2008 2:42:27 PM PDT by joan
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