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Dissecting Hillary's Win in West Virginia (Excellent analysis)
The National Review ^
| May 13, 2008
Posted on 05/14/2008 1:04:36 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: ModelBreaker
Re my #40:
Those super delegates have a real problem! Actually, they have an easy out. They can always nominate McCain on the Democratic ticket. Except for minor things like his being pro life and pro victory . . .
To: rhinohunter
I think your analysis is right on the mark. With Obama failing as he is now, I can see Florida, Ohio, Wisconsin, and maybe even Michigan and New Jersey going for McCain. I just hope that he holds off this last charge by Hillary and ends up as the nominee. I can never understand why so many on this site would rather run against her when Obama is clearly the weaker candidate.
To: Brett66
“White people dont like Obama”
But educated, young black people don’t like Hillary.
And young white metros like Obama.
The Dims are split, they are in a no-win situation.
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posted on
05/14/2008 8:06:23 AM PDT
by
Rennes Templar
( Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.)
To: ModelBreaker
Twenty-something idiots and blacks was essentially what the McGovern coalition was made up of. Lot of good it did him.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
White working-class voters, and various overlapping demographics - the elderly, Catholics, Jews - just aren't warming up to Obama, and they've been the backbone for the party for generations.
The Dem's backbone doesn't like their (presumptive) candidate and the Republican's backbone doesn't like theirs either. This election is a mess and we're screwed, no matter who wins.
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posted on
05/14/2008 10:29:01 AM PDT
by
CottonBall
(A minority is powerless while it conforms to the majority. "Civil Disobedience", Henry D.Thoreau)
To: aegiscg47
I can never understand why so many on this site would rather run against her when Obama is clearly the weaker candidate. Because if for some reason he actually won in November, he would be the much, much worse President. Clinton would move center, just like Bill did in order to get re-elected. 'bama wouldn't. And naive, inexperienced and arrogant is a very dangerous combination in a President.
To: Morgana
I think they have that assbackwards...70% went to college and it was either Marshall or WVU.
Perhaps it's the group you work and associate with that has a 70% rate for college degrees. It's pretty typical of most places that somewhere between 20-35% have degrees. Looks like WV is actually on the higher end of the spectrum.
This is from
census 2005 data site
The Northeast had the highest proportion of college graduates (30.9 percent), followed by the West (30.2 percent), the Midwest (26.0 percent) and the South (25.5 percent).
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posted on
05/14/2008 10:37:46 AM PDT
by
CottonBall
(A minority is powerless while it conforms to the majority. "Civil Disobedience", Henry D.Thoreau)
To: Condor51
Sorry no offense, but there must be a reason WV is the butt of jokes.
Hey, don't insult my retirement state! I can't wait to get out of Mexifornia and back to the U.S. And from the stats, WV and a handful of other states will be the only ones to resemble the US in another 20-25 years. In fact, that's probably true today.
Heavily forested, mountainous, rural, uninvaded - sounds perfect to me!
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posted on
05/14/2008 10:43:46 AM PDT
by
CottonBall
(A minority is powerless while it conforms to the majority. "Civil Disobedience", Henry D.Thoreau)
To: rhinohunter
McPain will be elected President with a HUGE rat majority in Congress.
I'd bet he's giddy now thinking of all the liberal legislation he can pass for the Dems.
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posted on
05/14/2008 10:47:21 AM PDT
by
CottonBall
(A minority is powerless while it conforms to the majority. "Civil Disobedience", Henry D.Thoreau)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
West Virginia must have a LOT of RACISTS!! Obama should have been MUCH closer.
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posted on
05/14/2008 1:13:01 PM PDT
by
Ann Archy
(Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
To: Morgana
Among Dem voters in West Virginia, I have no doubt that 70% DO NOT have a college degree. It has the lowest % of college graduates of any state and the oldest population as well (lots of retired miners as you probably know).
Beautiful state with friendly people, though still very poor by American standards. Of course, I have only been there twice.
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posted on
05/14/2008 3:38:53 PM PDT
by
Clemenza
(I Live in New Jersey for the Same Reason People Slow Down to Look at Car Crashes)
To: CottonBall
Yes, but it has NO economy! Whether you like it or not, immigrants, legal or illegal, are attracted to areas with economic growth.
In other words, its a good place to be a senior citizen collecting off of your 401k and the sale of your house in CA, but sucks if you are in the prime of your working life and want to earn a living.
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posted on
05/14/2008 3:40:32 PM PDT
by
Clemenza
(I Live in New Jersey for the Same Reason People Slow Down to Look at Car Crashes)
To: rhinohunter
The black and loony leftist base of the rat party will turn out in droves in the Fall. The coalition of blue-collar dems, independents, and deflated GOP base should be just enough to put McPain ahead of the black/loony left hordes that will turn out for Osama. HOWEVER, those blue-collar dems and independents will absolutely NOT be voting GOP down ticket, and McPain will be elected President with a HUGE rat majority in Congress.Yup. That's why I prefer to run against HRC. She won't beat-down our down ticket nearly so badly as will Obama.
The top of our ticket is hopeless. I'm much more concerned about preserving our strength in Congress and the state houses. And for that, keeping the idiot 20 somethings out of the voting booths and keeping black turnout to normal will make a huge difference.
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